[Beta] AtWar Radio!!!

Prispeval Comrade In Arms, 28.05.2013 at 12:04

looks cool

Prispeval McBamBam, 22.05.2013 at 18:56

Careful with playing songs like that over stream. Copyright issues etc... When you use Ham amateur radio there is a clause saying you cannot play music over radio without a license to do so, and even then... Unsure if same applies but because this is a legit website and not some regular junk gaming website, it has something to loose. Perhaps someone here with more legal knowledge than I could chip in on the subject? Preferably sourced .

Obama is right again xD plz make sure this is not against law

Prispeval YazanTheSexy, 11.06.2013 at 17:23

Prispeval McBamBam, 22.05.2013 at 18:56

Careful with playing songs like that over stream. Copyright issues etc... When you use Ham amateur radio there is a clause saying you cannot play music over radio without a license to do so, and even then... Unsure if same applies but because this is a legit website and not some regular junk gaming website, it has something to loose. Perhaps someone here with more legal knowledge than I could chip in on the subject? Preferably sourced .

Obama is right again xD plz make sure this is not against law

REALLY DONT KNOW WHAT TO DO NOW

Prispeval McBamBam, 22.05.2013 at 18:56

Careful with playing songs like that over stream. Copyright issues etc... When you use Ham amateur radio there is a clause saying you cannot play music over radio without a license to do so, and even then... Unsure if same applies but because this is a legit website and not some regular junk gaming website, it has something to loose. Perhaps someone here with more legal knowledge than I could chip in on the subject? Preferably sourced .

Technically, each broadcaster abides with the licenses of their respective countries of stream, some are stricter than others and some have no laws at all about the matter. In that case, it seems the most viable method is to have one broadcaster with one license (or without requiring license) and referred music by other people in the community.
(Btw, Caster.fm server is located in Dallas, USA whilst Freeshoutcast server is located in London, UK)
Anyone living in obscure places like Vanuatu, Bolivia and Malawi?

Results from analyzing network.

IP: 78.159.121.82
Hostname: hosted-by.leaseweb.com
ISP: Leaseweb Germany GmbH (previously netdirekt e. K.)
Country: Germany
source: RIPE # Filtered
RIPE databases operate throughout many locations in Europe. Possible location of server is either Frankfort, Germany, or Amsterdam, Netherlands.

Due to security I will only say that the server owner has put his/her address as being from the USA and I won't say exactly where.

That is for the game.


Now for the forum I have detected activity from these services (whether the forum/facebook icons or anything when I click on *Forum*)


23.79.15.139 and 23.79.2.110 and 23.0.196.214 and 23.33.186.49 and 23.33.186.19 (popular)
Akamai Technologies, Inc.
City: Cambridge
StateProv: MA

69.171.234.25
Facebook
CA

54.234.128.15
Amazon
USA

184.73.81.76
Amazon
USA

173.194.37.0
Google
CA

107.22.172.213
Amazon
Seattle WA



From this I assume Akamai Technologies from MA, USA is the one who is hosting this forum. Now the whole purpose of researching this and posting it here is to provide a bit more evidence that this server is being hosted in USA/EU with the owner being listed from a USA address. I don't know if the host is from say Somalia using satellites for internet if the website would still not be liable since the website is promoting it.

Let me share a story. There was this website called "Freemovies.net" or something like that... This website was not a torrent pirate bay or w/e people use these days. It was just a website, that listed movie links on it's website. It had a very nice disclaimer that said it was not liable for anything anyone posted on it and that all it did was refer people to links. Links that happen to be Hulu/other video providers that had a uploader make a single use account to post a single video that happened to be a full length movie from DVD and sometimes still in theater. Aka a streaming torrent file without all the hassle and risk of loading up. So... this website had nothing on it... but these links. Now it did take about a year before this site was taken down and a nice little US Agency banner was put up as it's homepage but it happened anyways.

What I mean by this is that even though your website/service may not post a single link, or anything that violates copyright laws, the fact that it is on the website and is promoted is enough to cause the website to be terminated.


Now a streaming "radio" playing music may not seem like a big deal, however it should be made aware of it's potential dangers. It sounds like ezzatam knows what he is talking about, but if I was the owner of this website... I might just want to spend a little cash to visit a local lawyer (possibly family friend who practices law at least?) who deals with copyright problems if I was gun ho on allowing radio with music/promoting it and if this was my business/entry on resume. I don't mean to kill the idea, I love it! However, I would hate to see problems come out of this! I love this game too much.

Possible uses for radio if copyright music is a problem
~Clan War channels, allowing private channels like when using mumble.
~Clan War announcer, someone to commentate on the game as it plays out.
~Just chatting with fellow players
~Playing music that users on this website created! Now that would annihilate the problem of copyright problems as long as there are enough artists here to provide fresh beats and jams. Only criteria would be that the player would have to authenticate somehow they are the creator of the music and they didn't just bum if off someone's facebook/myspace (people still use that?) profile. I would be highly interested in hearing music from around the world!

Wheh, I'm glad I didn't write a super long post or anything that no one can read in one sitting!

Prispeval McBamBam, 12.06.2013 at 22:46

What I mean by this is that even though your website/service may not post a single link, or anything that violates copyright laws, the fact that it is on the website and is promoted is enough to cause the website to be terminated.

Now a streaming "radio" playing music may not seem like a big deal, however it should be made aware of it's potential dangers. It sounds like ezzatam knows what he is talking about, but if I was the owner of this website... I might just want to spend a little cash to visit a local lawyer (possibly family friend who practices law at least?) who deals with copyright problems if I was gun ho on allowing radio with music/promoting it and if this was my business/entry on resume. I don't mean to kill the idea, I love it! However, I would hate to see problems come out of this! I love this game too much.

At the end of the day, licensing laws serve to ensure performers are receiving the rightful share of royalties. This is mainly due to the most popular internet radios hosting ads and profiting in a $500k USD market. In the US, you pay to artists associated with RIAA, in UK, the PPL. Knowing their music publishing and charts is highly English-dominated, Portuguese songs are unlikely to be covered and in theory you have no one to pay royalties to.

That was one thing, the other point is that atWar radio is definitely non-profit and we could enforce it as a private broadcast with password, although it can be argued to be private already due to the fact that basically only atwar players can reach it. (Have to fall back to caster for that)

Wouldn't it just be safer to host interface on atWar domain and restrict access to members/ rank dependent and set private broadcast password? (counter-intuitively;requires Casterfm)

Request function is not working properly, better fix that.

Prispeval Caulerpa, 20.06.2013 at 15:56

Request function is not working properly, better fix that.

Indeed it is working but Ivan can put a message about your request sent.

Prispeval Caulerpa, 20.06.2013 at 15:56

Request function is not working properly, better fix that.

Thx for spamming the request email service.
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