Why do clans fail?

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Objavljeno od Mr_Own_U, 18.03.2015 - 20:15

I feel like there has never been a dicussion for this, but many people probably wonder, why do new clans fail? And what does it take for a new clan to strive?

Many people want to make a clan for a few reasons here are the main ones in my opinion
1.) Want there name on something
2.) Building a legacy
3.) For a group of friends
4.) Map making

Arguably many more categories but this is what I think. Not many clans in this era lets say 2013 until now have actually made it.

The reason why I think a clan fails is over clan wars, obvious but the truth. When a clan war is lost many people like to blame eachother which cause unrest in a clan. Or some times egos can clash. Many clans died early on in the begginning heres a few; Bactria, American Pie Titans, Praetorian Clans , Immortal Spartans, Doomsday, The Outsiders, Pars, Alpha Omega. These are all new clans that couldn't make it past the first month. Some other clans that have died but showed potential are State of Mind and Killa Instinct.

The question is why? Why did these clans fail? Many of these founders of these clans were very excited to start something and it failed? Was it the lack of recruitment? I think it has to do with veterans not wanting to join their clans and the unwillingness to train someone. The only way you can be successful is by giving others a shot. For example, Syndicate was a major player in most of these clans today. Syndicate was basically the breeding ground of most people, myself included. Syndicate does things not many clans do which is give players a shot, maybe not as much today since Spart is inactive.

By complaining how this community does not have enough competitive clans is partially everyones fault, for not wanting to train new players. These new players could go out and make a clan like I did. It leads back to my point about clans failing because of not wanting to train lower ranks or give them a chance.

Another thing I see is clan hopping, many notable players are bouncing from clan to clan and not being able to find a spot. Losing a big name in your clan is never a good thing and it hurts a clans confidence moving forward. One of my reccomendations is not letting in any of these clan hoppers unless they are for real about wanting to stay and join. Un loyal members kill clans.. Thats why clans like Stalins, Syndicate, Illyria, MK, evoL and others are here. All of them have a group of core players who are loyal to one another.

I'm just trying to give people tips if they are looking to make a new clan that wont fail, clans are scarce already and I'd like to see some more, but i'd also like to hear your guys opinion on why new clans fail.

Aston Martin Elite Slayers Objave: 31	21.03.2015 - 13:59 Aston Martin Prispeval ArminyMouse, 21.03.2015 at 11:39 Oh,you guys arent inactive,but mou told me today that you are dead xD ss or lies ---- Power, Beauty, Soul. Nalaganje... Nalaganje...
Gonzo. Račun izbrisan	21.03.2015 - 20:12 Gonzo. Račun izbrisan Prispeval Aston Martin, 21.03.2015 at 13:59 Prispeval ArminyMouse, 21.03.2015 at 11:39 Oh,you guys arent inactive,but mou told me today that you are dead xD ss or lies Agreed! Show me ss? Nalaganje... Nalaganje...
Gonzo. Račun izbrisan	21.03.2015 - 20:13 Gonzo. Račun izbrisan Prispeval ArminyMouse, 21.03.2015 at 11:39 Oh,you guys arent inactive,but mou told me today that you are dead xD Nalaganje... Nalaganje...
Stryko Račun izbrisan	+3 21.03.2015 - 20:41 Stryko Račun izbrisan You just need members who can take all the Banter. Nalaganje... Nalaganje...
Soldier001 Račun izbrisan	+1 22.03.2015 - 04:54 Soldier001 Račun izbrisan Prispeval ArminyMouse, 21.03.2015 at 10:59 Ti stvarno pokazujes na kojem si stepenu sad XD remove narb andertes, wanna be commie Nalaganje... Nalaganje...
Croat Paradox Objave: 7244 od: Hrvaška	22.03.2015 - 04:56 Croat Prispeval Guest, 22.03.2015 at 04:54 Prispeval ArminyMouse, 21.03.2015 at 10:59 Ti stvarno pokazujes na kojem si stepenu sad XD remove narb andertes, wanna be commie Is there anyone who likes Pavle? (expect Tito) Xa. Axxax ---- Nalaganje... Nalaganje...
Mauzer Panteri Mortal Kombat Objave: 1811 od: Srbija	+7 22.03.2015 - 15:44 Mauzer Panteri Cuz noobs. ---- http://atwar-game.com/forum/topic.php?topic_id=14714&topicsearch=&page= Nalaganje... Nalaganje...
Gonzo. Račun izbrisan	+1 22.03.2015 - 16:21 Gonzo. Račun izbrisan Prispeval Croat, 22.03.2015 at 04:56 Prispeval Guest, 22.03.2015 at 04:54 Prispeval ArminyMouse, 21.03.2015 at 10:59 Ti stvarno pokazujes na kojem si stepenu sad XD remove narb andertes, wanna be commie Is there anyone who likes Pavle? (expect Tito) Xa. Axxax Good question . That would be a big NO. Nalaganje... Nalaganje...
Croat Paradox Objave: 7244 od: Hrvaška	22.03.2015 - 19:50 Croat Prispeval ArminyMouse, 22.03.2015 at 17:13 Thanks for all the clan's hate.I won't ask you Croat,i know the answer. Everything you know is relative cause knowledge wants to be based on truth, but there is no absolute truth, so everything you know is means nothing to me. Btw, nice rank up ax ax axax axaxaxax ---- Nalaganje... Nalaganje...
Your Mother Illyria Objave: 1274 od: Belorusija	22.03.2015 - 20:04 Your Mother Prispeval Mauzer Panteri, 22.03.2015 at 15:44 Cuz noobs. Nalaganje... Nalaganje...
Death1812 Račun izbrisan	22.03.2015 - 20:06 Death1812 Račun izbrisan Prispeval Mauzer Panteri, 22.03.2015 at 15:44 Cuz noobs. Nalaganje... Nalaganje...
Kaliraa zizonists Objave: 207	+6 22.03.2015 - 21:01 Kaliraa It's because people take the game too seriously, and treat it like a job, instead of a hobby, caring too much about mistakes. Nalaganje... Nalaganje...
KUNG PAO evoL Objave: 362 od: USA	23.03.2015 - 08:58 KUNG PAO Clans fail because artism ---- "evoL is that place you go to to find yourself and then ditch when you're pro and want to hang out with the other players we made" - Sasori Nalaganje... Nalaganje...
Sixstars Dalmati Objave: 316 od: Norveška	23.03.2015 - 13:12 Sixstars What is happening with the thread! ---- Anything is possible for me as long as I set my mind to it. Nalaganje... Nalaganje...
Amsterdam Dead Rabbits Objave: 1	23.03.2015 - 14:08 Amsterdam Prispeval Sixstars, 23.03.2015 at 13:12 What is happening with the thread! its going down the same road as bob did Nalaganje... Nalaganje...
cascaval Objave: 239 od: Romunija	26.03.2015 - 21:08 cascaval Prispeval Mr_Own_U, 18.03.2015 at 20:15 The reason why I think a clan fails is over clan wars, obvious but the truth. When a clan war is lost many people like to blame eachother which cause unrest in a clan. #stateofmind ---- Moldova is Romania Nalaganje... Nalaganje...
Exo-R Račun izbrisan	11.04.2015 - 03:06 Exo-R Račun izbrisan Prispeval cascaval, 26.03.2015 at 21:08 Prispeval Mr_Own_U, 18.03.2015 at 20:15 The reason why I think a clan fails is over clan wars, obvious but the truth. When a clan war is lost many people like to blame eachother which cause unrest in a clan. #stateofmind nice to stole our name Nalaganje... Nalaganje...
Legate Soldius Račun izbrisan	11.04.2015 - 04:52 Legate Soldius Račun izbrisan Prispeval Croat, 22.03.2015 at 04:56 Prispeval Guest, 22.03.2015 at 04:54 Prispeval ArminyMouse, 21.03.2015 at 10:59 Ti stvarno pokazujes na kojem si stepenu sad XD remove narb andertes, wanna be commie Is there anyone who likes Pavle? (expect Tito) Xa. Axxax tito doesn't like pavle anymore Nalaganje... Nalaganje...
Netre The Immortals Objave: 574 od: Irska	15.04.2015 - 07:18 Netre Prispeval KUNG PAO, 23.03.2015 at 08:58 Clans fail because artism Artism? surely being creative would be beneficial to a coalition xd ---- Nalaganje... Nalaganje...
chill Illyria Objave: 966 od: Irska	+1 15.04.2015 - 14:33 chill Prispeval Mauzer Panteri, 22.03.2015 at 15:44 Cuz noobs. Nalaganje... Nalaganje...
(deleted) Račun izbrisan	15.04.2015 - 19:05 (deleted) Račun izbrisan Prispeval Guest, 11.04.2015 at 04:52 Prispeval Croat, 22.03.2015 at 04:56 Prispeval Guest, 22.03.2015 at 04:54 Prispeval ArminyMouse, 21.03.2015 at 10:59 Ti stvarno pokazujes na kojem si stepenu sad XD remove narb andertes, wanna be commie Is there anyone who likes Pavle? (expect Tito) Xa. Axxax tito doesn't like pavle anymore Nalaganje... Nalaganje...
Mobster (Moderator) Paradox Objave: 716 od: Turčija	16.04.2015 - 15:04 Mobster (Moderator) Pars died? just passive for some days. Nalaganje... Nalaganje...
(deleted) Račun izbrisan	16.04.2015 - 17:21 (deleted) Račun izbrisan SA will never die bcs of trolls that hold that active.....(soldz,crey,me......) Nalaganje... Nalaganje...
Soldier001 Račun izbrisan	+1 16.04.2015 - 17:25 Soldier001 Račun izbrisan Prispeval Kromn, 16.04.2015 at 17:21 SA will never die bcs of trolls that hold that active.....(soldz,crey,me......) you are only 2 weeks here and we are starting to loose cws Nalaganje... Nalaganje...
Google Shadow Aces Objave: 2705 od: USA	16.04.2015 - 22:24 Google Prispeval Guest, 16.04.2015 at 17:25 Prispeval Kromn, 16.04.2015 at 17:21 SA will never die bcs of trolls that hold that active.....(soldz,crey,me......) you are only 2 weeks here and we are starting to loose all cws ---- Helpful Guides Nalaganje... Nalaganje...
1GodofWar1 ENIGMA Objave: 2779 od: USA	05.05.2015 - 16:04 1GodofWar1 Prispeval Guest, 16.04.2015 at 17:25 Prispeval Kromn, 16.04.2015 at 17:21 SA will never die bcs of trolls that hold that active.....(soldz,crey,me......) you are only 2 weeks here and we are starting to loose cws XAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAAXAXAX ---- Nalaganje... Nalaganje...
Helly Sons of Mars Objave: 5389 od: USA	+1 09.05.2015 - 07:00 Helly I belive clans fail mostly because you throw complete strangers at each other and they pretend to like each other for a while then get bored and look for people they like better. But sometimes brotherhood is forged aND you get super groups. ---- We are not the same- I am a Martian. Nalaganje... Nalaganje...
Phoenix Aristokrats Objave: 2578 od: UK	27.05.2015 - 15:43 Phoenix Prispeval Helly, 09.05.2015 at 07:00 I belive clans fail mostly because you throw complete strangers at each other and they pretend to like each other for a while then get bored and look for people they like better. But sometimes brotherhood is forged aND you get super groups. Hell knows ---- Nalaganje... Nalaganje...
Phoenix Aristokrats Objave: 2578 od: UK	26.08.2015 - 20:49 Phoenix I can tell you why they start to fail. The founders who made the clan in their vision go afk.... The vision goes afk with them and the leadership left starts wondering what they're supposed to do. Sooner or later that leadership starts to fall apart aswell because what they thought the clan was starts to mismatch with reality - they need their true leader (the founder) and you end up with all the derp players left hanging around, wondering when their leaders will come back. Only they've found other hobbies, interests, clans or w/e by that point. I think SM should be careful now bonker is gone, we didn't see this shit coming to SA, it just happened. ---- Nalaganje... Nalaganje...
chill Illyria Objave: 966 od: Irska	+3 26.08.2015 - 21:36 chill Prispeval Phoenix, 26.08.2015 at 20:49 I think SM should be careful now bonker is gone, we didn't see this shit coming to SA, it just happened. bonker has left sm over 100 times Nalaganje... Nalaganje...

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