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08.01.2014 - 10:09
Hello friends, I would like to apologize to everyone. I now realize how wrong and ignorant I was.
I have found the missing piece, the unchallenged proof that god exists. For all the times when I bashed god, I now realize I might end up in hell because I'm such a bad person.

I am sorry. Please forgive me

Proof that god exists:

http://bobbiblogger.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/god.jpg

http://www.tickld.com/cdn_image_content/29108.jpg
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08.01.2014 - 10:37
I don't think he'll be able to, with my fist in his face and his face on the floor
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08.01.2014 - 10:47
Do you feel euphoric yet?
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08.01.2014 - 11:15
Haha, indeed. Or Perhaps it's just Jon Schaffer's music.

Are you a religious retard, or just curious?

Yes, come at me with that feeling of superiority, I like that in mentally ill religious people.
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08.01.2014 - 11:52
Black Hole
Račun izbrisan
What's in those links? can't tell if jump scare or not.
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08.01.2014 - 12:09
Ignorance can be bliss, but only for a while, cause life will hit you in the nuts sooner or later. Once you start thinking and realizing a few things, you can't go back to seeing the world the way you did.

Once you take the red pill you can't go back and you will see the insanity all around you. So maybe it's better if you stay religious. Don't question, don't cross the line, OBEY.

Black Hole, there's nothing scary in the links
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08.01.2014 - 12:34
Lock this thread, it speaks of heresy against my aetheistic leanings
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08.01.2014 - 12:35
Come on dawg, it's off-topic. The obey police is everywhere. Amazing.
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08.01.2014 - 12:47
God exists, sure. He's the lazy, money-hungry fuck who lies to the populace stating "Work hard for me now, in this life, and heaven awaits you when you're dead", even though we'll all just rot in the dirt, having wasted our precious time on this Earth fighting and killing eachother, instead of creating Heaven here for ourselves.
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09.01.2014 - 04:30
Why are you so mean? Religion means love, peace, happiness and, let's not forget, Tolerance.














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09.01.2014 - 05:36
Because pictures of other religions are too violent and sick for me to even look at. See Catholic Inquisition

These muslim pictures potray the point in the least violent way, no blood etc

Yes Goblin, we were lied to, god does not exist. Isn't that liberating. Feel the relief
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09.01.2014 - 07:38
Prispeval Unleashed, 09.01.2014 at 05:36

Because pictures of other religions are too violent and sick for me to even look at. See Catholic Inquisition

These muslim pictures potray the point in the least violent way, no blood etc

Yes Goblin, we were lied to, god does not exist. Isn't that liberating. Feel the relief


Whut you talking about, god will save us all, like people in africa.
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09.01.2014 - 15:32
So, nobody from the other side?

I know there's someone there reading this right now, thinking we're all gonna go to hell

Come on loser, tell us about your fake god. Yeah, YOU. YOU right there. I dare you
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09.01.2014 - 15:55
Prispeval Unleashed, 09.01.2014 at 15:32

So, nobody from the other side?

I know there's someone there reading this right now, thinking we're all gonna go to hell

Come on loser, tell us about your fake god. Yeah, YOU. YOU right there. I dare you



God is real, earth is perfect, it was designed by our creator for us to pursue happiness, that's why earth is the only planet in the universe with the capability to support life.

There is no other point in life than to prove his wisdom; humans can't govern them selfs. Our ability to take decisions by our selfs is a privilege that was only reserved for god himself. Satan made Adam eat of the apple in order to manipulate him.

Unlike god, the human kind is not perfect and is prone to take choices that lead to sin, therefore human will never be able to govern himself.

Why god is not solving human problems? Because the only way for him to prove that humans shouldn't have eated the apple to obtain freewill, is to let them live in their own made inferno until they lose their sense of right and wrong.

But don't worry, there is salvation for the wicked too.
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09.01.2014 - 16:16
Hahah, good one :P Wait, did you write that, or did you copy/paste it from somewhere? Fine I'll play along
You have 5 paragraphs, so you will get as many in return, in the same order.

We don't know if earth is the only one supporting life. But let's assume it is. The universe is hostile to survival, you would die in 99.9% of the places in this cold, black void. Therefore in this case life on this planet would merely be an accident. Trial and error, billions of years of evolution. Amazing indeed, but obviously nothing designed by "someone". But fine, once again let's assume it is. If that were the case, I would describe that someone as a cruel, evil, bloodthirsty lunatic who doesn't give a fuck about anything whatsoever.


In the beginning there was Adam and Eve. Nobody else around. The only two humans to ever exist untill that point. Well then, who the hell was there to watch all that apple stuff and write the book while it was happening? "Unleashed, ur so stupd, their kids wrote it after their parents told them the story and it was passed on". Well then, if it was passed on how are you so gullible as to beleive it, anyone could add to that story whatever they pleased, LOL.

Human is able to govern himself, it's been happening for millenia, for more actually.


Because he doesn't exist.


Indeed there is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXCriU9_uJM
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09.01.2014 - 16:45
Prispeval Unleashed, 09.01.2014 at 16:16

Hahah, good one :P Wait, did you write that, or did you copy/paste it from somewhere? Fine I'll play along
You have 5 paragraphs, so you will get as many in return, in the same order.

We don't know if earth is the only one supporting life. But let's assume it is. The universe is hostile to survival, you would die in 99.9% of the places in this cold, black void. Therefore in this case life on this planet would merely be an accident. Trial and error, billions of years of evolution. Amazing indeed, but obviously nothing designed by "someone". But fine, once again let's assume it is. If that were the case, I would describe that someone as a cruel, evil, bloodthirsty lunatic who doesn't give a fuck about anything whatsoever.


In the beginning there was Adam and Eve. Nobody else around. The only two humans to ever exist untill that point. Well then, who the hell was there to watch all that apple stuff and write the book while it was happening? "Unleashed, ur so stupd, their kids wrote it after their parents told them the story and it was passed on". Well then, if it was passed on how are you so gullible as to beleive it, anyone could add to that story whatever they pleased, LOL.

Human is able to govern himself, it's been happening for millenia, for more actually.


Because he doesn't exist.


Indeed there is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXCriU9_uJM


Wtf u talking about evolution is not a thing duh thats like saying u believe in gravity ;^)

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10.01.2014 - 00:38
Prispeval Permamuted, 09.01.2014 at 19:03

Someone needs to show tiktok this thread, and then let the shitstorm begin


Well how about you make the first move, tell us about your fake beloved god, and prove his existence. Or at least explain why he is better than allah or buddha.

Wait, you can't do that, you believe because you were forced to, not because you chose to or because it's logical. You can't prove or explain it. Brainwashing in action, starting early childhood. The best time to start conditioning the mind The Bible for children, does that ring a bell?
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10.01.2014 - 02:49
Well you asked for a locking of the topic so I assumed you do.

Prispeval Permamuted, 10.01.2014 at 02:00

my issue is i cant prove he doesnt exist.


You don't have to. The burden of proof is on those who claim the opposite. I can't prove the Flying Spaghetti Monster doesn't exist. I don't think about it either, or obsessively bring it up in everyday conversation. If I did, that would be considered insane.
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10.01.2014 - 07:34
Prispeval Unleashed, 09.01.2014 at 16:16

We don't know if earth is the only one supporting life. But let's assume it is. The universe is hostile to survival, you would die in 99.9% of the places in this cold, black void. Therefore in this case life on this planet would merely be an accident. Trial and error, billions of years of evolution. Amazing indeed, but obviously nothing designed by "someone". But fine, once again let's assume it is. If that were the case, I would describe that someone as a cruel, evil, bloodthirsty lunatic who doesn't give a fuck about anything whatsoever.


In the beginning there was Adam and Eve. Nobody else around. The only two humans to ever exist untill that point. Well then, who the hell was there to watch all that apple stuff and write the book while it was happening? "Unleashed, ur so stupd, their kids wrote it after their parents told them the story and it was passed on". Well then, if it was passed on how are you so gullible as to beleive it, anyone could add to that story whatever they pleased, LOL.

Human is able to govern himself, it's been happening for millenia, for more actually.


Because he doesn't exist.


Indeed there is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXCriU9_uJM


There is many factors for life on earth to exist, if any of them was just a little different, life would be impossible.
If the universe is so big, and old enough as scientist claim it to be, how come there is no other specie that is old enough to space travel or send a signal to space?

That's funny, as old songs where never wrote down, musicians had to memorize them generation to generation, and yet those songs survived until somebody wrote them down, without change. But let's assume that the bible was corrupted by man, in such case you would have to read it and use your free will to follow the way that is morally right, if you fail to do it, then god was right and our kind cursed itself when Adam eat the apple.

Yes, because we have such a nice government type in which big corporations buy votes and the fool vote for a random dude that knows how to talk in public. God's kingdom is perfect, no corruption, no greed, no mistakes.

There bible is proof that he exist.
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10.01.2014 - 07:52
Prispeval Unleashed, 10.01.2014 at 00:38

Prispeval Permamuted, 09.01.2014 at 19:03

Someone needs to show tiktok this thread, and then let the shitstorm begin


Well how about you make the first move, tell us about your fake beloved god, and prove his existence. Or at least explain why he is better than allah or buddha.

Wait, you can't do that, you believe because you were forced to, not because you chose to or because it's logical. You can't prove or explain it. Brainwashing in action, starting early childhood. The best time to start conditioning the mind The Bible for children, does that ring a bell?


Buddha is not a god in Buddhism and is not prayed to. He is looked up to and respected as a teacher.

Allah = Arabic's way to say god, the difference between Islam and Christianity is that Islam believes that Jesus was not the last prophet, and is based on the concept that humanity corrupted the word of god.
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10.01.2014 - 08:23
I'm not going to lock this. I don't believe in god and so I for one would like to hear other peoples point of view. Feel free to discuss just don't start a flame war.
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10.01.2014 - 09:55
Normally i wouldn't take part in discussions like this. But now i just want to post a quote from one of my hero's Sam Harris. Read it and think about it

"Nine million children die every year before they reach the age of five. Picture a Asian tsunami of the sort we saw in 2004, that killed a quarter of a million people. One of those, every ten days, killing children only under five. That's 24,000 children a day, a thousand an hour, 17 or so a minute. That means before I can get to the end of this sentence, some few children, very likely, will have died in terror and agony. Think of the parents of these children. Think of the fact that most of these men and women believe in God, and are praying at this moment for their children to be spared. And their prayers will not be answered. Any God who would allow children by the millions to suffer and die in this way, and their parents to grieve in this way, either can do nothing to help them, or doesn't care to. He is therefore either impotent or evil.

And worse than that, many of these people certainly, will be going to Hell because they're praying to the wrong God. Just think about that. Ok, through no fault of their own, they were born into the wrong culture, where they got the wrong theology, and they missed the revelation. There are 1.2 billion people in India at this moment. Most of them are Hindus, most of them therefore are polytheists. No matter how good these people are, they are doomed. If you are praying to the Monkey God Hanuman, you are doomed. You'll be tortured in Hell for eternity. Now, is there the slightest evidence for this? No. It just says so in Mark 9, and Matthew 13, and Revelation 14.

So God created the cultural isolation of the Hindus. He engineered the circumstance of their deaths in ignorance of revelation, and then he created the penalty for this ignorance, which is an eternity of conscious torment in fire. On the other hand, a serial killer in America, who spent his life raping and torturing children, need only come to God, come to Jesus, on Death Row, and after a final meal of fried chicken, he's going to spend an eternity in Heaven after death. One thing should be crystal clear to you: This vision of life has absolutely nothing to do with moral accountability."

[..]

"Now, I'm obviously not saying that all religious people, are psychopaths and psychotics, but this to me is the true horror of religion. It allows perfectly decent and sane people to believe by the billions, what only lunatics could believe on their own. If you wake up tomorrow morning thinking that saying a few Latin words over your pancakes is gonna turn them into the body of Elvis Presley, you have lost your mind. But if you think more or less the same thing about a cracker and the body of Jesus, you're just a Catholic.

And I'm not the first person to notice that it's a a very strange sort of loving God who would make salvation depend on believing in him on bad evidence. If you lived 2,000 years ago, there was evidence galore, he was just performing miracles. But apparently, he got tired of being so helpful. And so now, we all inherit this very heavy burden of the doctrine's implausibility. And the effort to square it with what we now know about the cosmos and what we know about the all-too-human origins of Scripture becomes more and more difficult.

We come from people who used to bury children under the foundations of new buildings as offerings to their imaginary gods. There, in vast numbers of societies, people would bury children in postholes, thinking that this would prevent an invisible being from knocking down their buildings. These are the sorts of people who wrote the Bible. If there is a less morale framework than this, I haven't heard of it."
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10.01.2014 - 10:03
I belive in God. All of this, the universe and beyond, needs a start. In my religion, God created all of this. As well, you might wonder:
"And, how did God get created? God needs a start....."

In my religion, God existed at all times. God existed all the time, from the start of the universe, before, and after.
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10.01.2014 - 10:59
Prispeval Goblin, 09.01.2014 at 18:04

I believe in this ---> http://listverse.com/2013/12/02/10-reasons-life-may-be-a-computer-simulation/

Really awesome page btw. alot of interesting articles.


Awesome thread, basically all of my views in one article!
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13.01.2014 - 13:00
Prispeval Sanguinare, 10.01.2014 at 10:03

I belive in God. All of this, the universe and beyond, needs a start. In my religion, God created all of this. As well, you might wonder:
"And, how did God get created? God needs a start....."

In my religion, God existed at all times. God existed all the time, from the start of the universe, before, and after.


What start? Your belief is illogical. Why must there be a start? We simply don't know what created us, or if there is a god, or if there ever was a start. We can't even define what "nothing" is. You're simply substituting what you don't know with god. And hear me out, I'm not insulting here, but I would like to hear your thoughts further because your belief is illogical. Now before you go against me, understand that when I say "illogical" it doesn't mean you're wrong, it means of course that you have no concrete proofs of the existence of god, or your god I should say.

Now, it is undoubtedly faith am I correct? You have faith that god exists because it is more reasonable to believe in his existence and so forth than to believe in nothing right? I'm assuming you grew up in a religious environment correct? Meaning either your parents passed it on to you, or you live in area where religion is prominent. Are you open to accept that you may be incorrect? That other's with other religions might be more correct, or that others with no religious beliefs might be correct? Sorry for the questions, but I need to situate where you're at so that I can either learn from you, disprove you or direct you.
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13.01.2014 - 13:50
Prispeval Sanguinare, 10.01.2014 at 10:03

We can't even define what "nothing" is.


Nothing: The absence of something (and/or everything) expected.
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13.01.2014 - 17:05
>God

top lel
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14.01.2014 - 03:18
Prispeval tophat, 13.01.2014 at 13:00

Prispeval Sanguinare, 10.01.2014 at 10:03

I belive in God. All of this, the universe and beyond, needs a start. In my religion, God created all of this. As well, you might wonder:
"And, how did God get created? God needs a start....."

In my religion, God existed at all times. God existed all the time, from the start of the universe, before, and after.


What start? Your belief is illogical. Why must there be a start? We simply don't know what created us, or if there is a god, or if there ever was a start. We can't even define what "nothing" is. You're simply substituting what you don't know with god. And hear me out, I'm not insulting here, but I would like to hear your thoughts further because your belief is illogical. Now before you go against me, understand that when I say "illogical" it doesn't mean you're wrong, it means of course that you have no concrete proofs of the existence of god, or your god I should say.

Now, it is undoubtedly faith am I correct? You have faith that god exists because it is more reasonable to believe in his existence and so forth than to believe in nothing right? I'm assuming you grew up in a religious environment correct? Meaning either your parents passed it on to you, or you live in area where religion is prominent. Are you open to accept that you may be incorrect? That other's with other religions might be more correct, or that others with no religious beliefs might be correct? Sorry for the questions, but I need to situate where you're at so that I can either learn from you, disprove you or direct you.

....I suck at debating, so you won, but i still hold tight on my belief.
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14.01.2014 - 06:39
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14.01.2014 - 14:07
Prispeval Sanguinare, 14.01.2014 at 03:18

Prispeval tophat, 13.01.2014 at 13:00

Prispeval Sanguinare, 10.01.2014 at 10:03

I belive in God. All of this, the universe and beyond, needs a start. In my religion, God created all of this. As well, you might wonder:
"And, how did God get created? God needs a start....."

In my religion, God existed at all times. God existed all the time, from the start of the universe, before, and after.


What start? Your belief is illogical. Why must there be a start? We simply don't know what created us, or if there is a god, or if there ever was a start. We can't even define what "nothing" is. You're simply substituting what you don't know with god. And hear me out, I'm not insulting here, but I would like to hear your thoughts further because your belief is illogical. Now before you go against me, understand that when I say "illogical" it doesn't mean you're wrong, it means of course that you have no concrete proofs of the existence of god, or your god I should say.

Now, it is undoubtedly faith am I correct? You have faith that god exists because it is more reasonable to believe in his existence and so forth than to believe in nothing right? I'm assuming you grew up in a religious environment correct? Meaning either your parents passed it on to you, or you live in area where religion is prominent. Are you open to accept that you may be incorrect? That other's with other religions might be more correct, or that others with no religious beliefs might be correct? Sorry for the questions, but I need to situate where you're at so that I can either learn from you, disprove you or direct you.

....I suck at debating, so you won, but i still hold tight on my belief.


Why do you hold to your belief then?
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