MH17

Twice in 3 months this is starting to become a trend.

Please don't turn this into a WW2 topic.

Why did they go near the warzone?

*waits for tik-tok to post... nvm banned!

What I believed before I knew exactly what happened was right! I thought the Rebels thought they shot down some time of military aircraft not knowing it was a commercial airliner. It does not make them right 1 bit at all. I think something needs to happen now to those SOBs.

Don't worry, it's just the same plane from the Indian Ocean 370. All it did was go into a time portal and then shot back over Ukraine, then it was shot down.

Prispeval Mr_Own_U, 18.07.2014 at 20:03

*waits for tik-tok to post... nvm banned!

What I believed before I knew exactly what happened was right! I thought the Rebels thought they shot down some time of military aircraft not knowing it was a commercial airliner. It does not make them right 1 bit at all. I think something needs to happen now to those SOBs.

It was an accident, besides why the hell would they go over a warzone where other aircraft were destroyed?

Prispeval Skittzophrenic, 18.07.2014 at 23:14

Don't worry, it's just the same plane from the Indian Ocean 370. All it did was go into a time portal and then shot back over Ukraine, then it was shot down.

Russians shoot down the plane -> it was an accident

While everyone thought Ukrainians shoot it down -> does fascist bastards, russia should invade them

Sorry tito but they prove that "The u.s saying shoot it down" was a hoax.. Go ahead Mr. Bias!

Prispeval Skanderbeg, 21.07.2014 at 09:05

Americans ordered them to fly over east ukraine, then they ordered ukrainian nazis to shoot at it. So CNN and BBC can report how russians shoot it down and 300 innocent victims is russian fault. They are even ordering their loyal dogs like UK and Australia to blame Putin. Nothing new.

30 years ago they ordered flight control to send south korean plane over USSR, although everyone knew flying over USSR is forbiden and it will be shot down instantly, USSR was clear on that matter. Yet, plane entered soviet air space and was shot down, 280 dead koreans, cnn reported how evil communists killed ''free people of the capitalist world''.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_Air_Lines_Flight_007

25 years ago US navy shot down iranian civil plane over iranian territory, all crew and passengers dead. USA used excuse how they saw military plane, so they fired, i spit on your 700 billion technology if you cant recognize civil and military plane, go back to making dog house, thats technology for you. They didnt allow investigation of course.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655

Putin ordered help to be sent, and funds if needed for ukraine and dutch investigators. But hey! it doesnt matter if you cooperate and help, you are bad, you deserve to die.

Actually target plane was russian president Vladimir Putin.
Malaysian and aircraft that Putin was returning from Brazil fly at the same point at a height of 10,100 feet. Putin's presidential plane was there 16:21 pm Moscow time, and the plane "Malaysian Airlines" at 15:44 pm.
coincidence?

The world will tolerate Russians? Hell no!

I have no intention to defend tito or putin, they both should be reek'ed as far as im concerned, but Tito has a point here.I mean do you really trust the USA government?Since when?We are talking about one of the most evil,corrupted, imperialistic,lying government in the history of human kind and based on historical evidence is capable of anything.Just remember Vietnam, 9/11, Iraq, Syria and all the lies it has sprouted over the years.If usa has no problem killing its own people to reach their goals, what problem would it have to kill a random plane with foreigners?
Also keep in mind that when we say Usa government, we mean Jewish government of the united states (certainly a fact and not a personal opinion) and that makes me even more skeptical about the whole situation.Putin might be a serial killer but he is certainly not stupid to do this.And based on the notorious reputation of American and Jewish governments, for lies and manipulation, this whole thing reeks.It just doesnt add up.

Prispeval Khal.eesi, 22.07.2014 at 08:27

.Putin might be a serial killer but he is certainly not stupid to do this.

No one said Putin did this or orderd it ...separatists did this, they might did this by accident even ...but Putin has lost now, meaning he cant help them anymore now, he cant support them anymore if he does world could see this as him supporting terrorism and terrorists ...and not brave russian rebels, freedom fighters how they were presented up until now, fighting against some nazis.

Prispeval Goblin, 22.07.2014 at 08:45

Prispeval Khal.eesi, 22.07.2014 at 08:27

.Putin might be a serial killer but he is certainly not stupid to do this.

No one said Putin did this or orderd it ...separatists did this, they might did this by accident even ...but Putin has lost now, meaning he cant help them anymore now, he cant support them anymore if he does world could see this as him supporting terrorism and terrorists ...and not brave russian rebels, freedom fighters how they were presented up until now, fighting against some nazis.

well exactly..i mean doesnt this all seem a little too convienient for the United States?seperatists suddenly just fucked up by accident or because they are so stupid (?) and managed to put Putin and Russia in such a tough spot..dunno i might be a little over the top paranoid but this doesnt feel right to me..

Prispeval Khal.eesi, 22.07.2014 at 14:11

well exactly..i mean doesnt this all seem a little too convienient for the United States?seperatists suddenly just fucked up by accident or because they are so stupid (?) and managed to put Putin and Russia in such a tough spot..dunno i might be a little over the top paranoid but this doesnt feel right to me..

Its also much more interesting to think there is some conspiracy CIA plot rather then simple mistake from separatist.

Their commander braged about knocking down a plane because he thought they knocked down an ukrainian military plane or something ...then they withdraw their braging, and start pointing toward ukraine ...then when they realise people know who knocked down the plane, they withdraw that and start saying ukraine is to blame because they are idiots who made a mistake ...then the conspiracy theories by russian lovers come knocking on the door, its CIA, its the jews ...someone will probably say it was reptile aliens ....

And the thing is simple ...but no one likes a boring story.

Prispeval Roncho, 22.07.2014 at 06:14

The world will tolerate Russians? Hell no!

The world will tolerate you? Hell n-... I mean yes. Damn it.

Prispeval Khal.eesi, 22.07.2014 at 08:27

I have no intention to defend tito or putin, they both should be reek'ed as far as im concerned, but Tito has a point here.I mean do you really trust the USA government?Since when?We are talking about one of the most evil,corrupted, imperialistic,lying government in the history of human kind and based on historical evidence is capable of anything.Just remember Vietnam, 9/11, Iraq, Syria and all the lies it has sprouted over the years.If usa has no problem killing its own people to reach their goals, what problem would it have to kill a random plane with foreigners?
Also keep in mind that when we say Usa government, we mean Jewish government of the united states (certainly a fact and not a personal opinion) and that makes me even more skeptical about the whole situation.Putin might be a serial killer but he is certainly not stupid to do this.And based on the notorious reputation of American and Jewish governments, for lies and manipulation, this whole thing reeks.It just doesnt add up.

Well... your ''facts'' may not actually be ''facts'' but they are interesting points. I don't see how they are Jewish though, although they do support Israel.

It's a quite interesting theory that the US gov had the plane shot down. I like these more ''realistic'' conspiracy theories. Such as 9/11, could it have been a inside job? It certainly was able to help create a would-be police state. Could the MH17 plane be shot down to make the rebels look bad? That's even more likely.

Prispeval Goblin, 22.07.2014 at 14:28

Prispeval Khal.eesi, 22.07.2014 at 14:11

well exactly..i mean doesnt this all seem a little too convienient for the United States?seperatists suddenly just fucked up by accident or because they are so stupid (?) and managed to put Putin and Russia in such a tough spot..dunno i might be a little over the top paranoid but this doesnt feel right to me..

Its also much more interesting to think there is some conspiracy CIA plot rather then simple mistake from separatist.

Their commander braged about knocking down a plane because he thought they knocked down an ukrainian military plane or something ...then they withdraw their braging, and start pointing toward ukraine ...then when they realise people know who knocked down the plane, they withdraw that and start saying ukraine is to blame because they are idiots who made a mistake ...then the conspiracy theories by russian lovers come knocking on the door, its CIA, its the jews ...someone will probably say it was reptile aliens ....

And the thing is simple ...but no one likes a boring story.

You said it yourself, the rebels must have did this by accident. So how would they be viewed a terrorists? Some stupid people would, but who cares about morons?

Prispeval Guest, 22.07.2014 at 14:35

Well... your ''facts'' may not actually be ''facts'' but they are interesting points. I don't see how they are Jewish though, although they do support Israel.

It's a quite interesting theory that the US gov had the plane shot down. I like these more ''realistic'' conspiracy theories. Such as 9/11, could it have been a inside job? It certainly was able to help create a would-be police state. Could the MH17 plane be shot down to make the rebels look bad? That's even more likely.

lol just check the list with obamas administration and people in the highest places in public offices and see how many of them are jews..you ll be surprised.

Prispeval Goblin, 22.07.2014 at 14:28

Prispeval Khal.eesi, 22.07.2014 at 14:11

well exactly..i mean doesnt this all seem a little too convienient for the United States?seperatists suddenly just fucked up by accident or because they are so stupid (?) and managed to put Putin and Russia in such a tough spot..dunno i might be a little over the top paranoid but this doesnt feel right to me..

Its also much more interesting to think there is some conspiracy CIA plot rather then simple mistake from separatist.

Their commander braged about knocking down a plane because he thought they knocked down an ukrainian military plane or something ...then they withdraw their braging, and start pointing toward ukraine ...then when they realise people know who knocked down the plane, they withdraw that and start saying ukraine is to blame because they are idiots who made a mistake ...then the conspiracy theories by russian lovers come knocking on the door, its CIA, its the jews ...someone will probably say it was reptile aliens ....

And the thing is simple ...but no one likes a boring story.

well personally i couldnt care less about a story being boring if its the truth, im just trying to see this with an open mind, because i ve seen what theatrics the states government can pull off.Its like the story with the child and the wolf, where the boy was yelling "help a wolf is gonna eat me" everyday just for fun and then when the wolf came for real nobody believed the boy's yelling.Same with USA, after so much lying, we can never be sure whats real or not anymore..

I suggest a little practice wargame for meh deutschland bundeswher. its starts off by steamrolling russian plains towards moscow, and see how shit scared russia are when they lose to a 180 thousand man army/

Citiraj:

Prispeval Guest, 22.07.2014 at 14:36

You said it yourself, the rebels must have did this by accident. So how would they be viewed a terrorists? Some stupid people would, but who cares about morons?

Yea an accident ...but i remember when everyone thought ukraine knocked down a plane everyone was raging about russians need to invade does sick ukrainians ...double standards much.
And by ukraine's view and probably law because you cant invade a sovereign country does prorussian rebels are terorists ...you are from USA, if mexicans decided to rebel take up arms and large part of texas wanting to separate and join Mexico, while country of Mexico was arming them ...what would you call them?

Citiraj:

Prispeval Goblin, 22.07.2014 at 14:49

Prispeval Guest, 22.07.2014 at 14:36

You said it yourself, the rebels must have did this by accident. So how would they be viewed a terrorists? Some stupid people would, but who cares about morons?

Yea an accident ...but i remember when everyone thought ukraine knocked down a plane everyone was raging about russians need to invade does sick ukrainians ...double standards much.
And by ukraine's view and probably law because you cant invade a sovereign country does prorussian rebels are terorists ...you are from USA, if mexicans decided to rebel take up arms and large part of texas wanting to separate and join Mexico, while country of Mexico was arming them ...what would you call them?

Republic of Texas xaxaxa

Prispeval Guest, 22.07.2014 at 14:35

It's a quite interesting theory that the US gov had the plane shot down. I like these more ''realistic'' conspiracy theories. Such as 9/11, could it have been a inside job? It certainly was able to help create a would-be police state.

I cant believe people believe in this theory ...this is one of the examples how people love stories based on crap.

Wana know what al qaeda commanders said to iran's president when he in a speach mentioned that america did an inside job on WTC?

They responded to iran's president something like this: "omfg lol bro, u mad xD ...americans didnt fuckin knock down WTC ...WE FUCKIN DID!!! ...retards with your dumbass conspiracy theories lawl"

Prispeval Khal.eesi, 22.07.2014 at 14:45

well personally i couldnt care less about a story being boring if its the truth, im just trying to see this with an open mind, because i ve seen what theatrics the states government can pull off.Its like the story with the child and the wolf, where the boy was yelling "help a wolf is gonna eat me" everyday just for fun and then when the wolf came for real nobody believed the boy's yelling.Same with USA, after so much lying, we can never be sure whats real or not anymore..

Yea ofc ...but i dont understand why most of you think americans could pull something like this, but dont think with an open mind that russians are capable of the same thing?

Tik-Tok atm because can't enlighten us with his knowledge.

Prispeval Skanderbeg, 22.07.2014 at 15:33

Its quite funny, if not scary, that ''world''(read - west, because congo or burma doesnt give a damn) blame and accuse russians in ukraine for conflict and war where government is attacking. And in gaza war which is going on right now ''world'' is supporting the government of Israel in killing innocent and weaponless citizens.

Double standards? Of course double standards, when something suits you, you will support that side, no one is that stupid to support the truth or justice, fuck that shit. I mean really, who the hell can sleep at night if you dont kill atleast one little child or is responsible for war crime in some god forgoten place.

I realized now, sadly, that even if Russia fall apart again which is very possible after Putin's death, and americans enter with their economy, advisors and decadentsia, if some russians or regions of Russia defend against american economic take over, americans will just accuse them like rebels today in ukraine, while supporting other russians who will be pro american. Just check history, ukraine was russian oblast and then soviet republic - american enemy in cold war, today they are supporting them against russia, that mean if Russia collapse, americans will just back another russian region for example Novgorod russians against Yaroslavl, boasting first party and accusing second for crimes.

These are not humans obviously, humans arent capable of such evil like lying, stealing and killing for centuries, all beings have boundaries, its limit. Americans obviously dont have. I cant imagine ordinary american waking up, preparing for work (lets say television), and when he get there, his task is to say more lies about Russia than yesterday, he will read from the paper everything his superiors write on it. Then at the end of the day, he will just go home and sleep in his bed like innocent just-born baby with smile and sweet dreams.

Are humans really capable of doing that everyday? Are you?

I'm just curious Tito, do Turkic people in Russia say they are Tatar, Yakut? Or they call themselves Russian too?

Prispeval Skanderbeg, 21.07.2014 at 09:05

Americans ordered them to fly over east ukraine, then they ordered ukrainian nazis to shoot at it. So CNN and BBC can report how russians shoot it down and 300 innocent victims is russian fault. They are even ordering their loyal dogs like UK and Australia to blame Putin. Nothing new.

30 years ago they ordered flight control to send south korean plane over USSR, although everyone knew flying over USSR is forbiden and it will be shot down instantly, USSR was clear on that matter. Yet, plane entered soviet air space and was shot down, 280 dead koreans, cnn reported how evil communists killed ''free people of the capitalist world''.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_Air_Lines_Flight_007

25 years ago US navy shot down iranian civil plane over iranian territory, all crew and passengers dead. USA used excuse how they saw military plane, so they fired, i spit on your 700 billion technology if you cant recognize civil and military plane, go back to making dog house, thats technology for you. They didnt allow investigation of course.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655

Putin ordered help to be sent, and funds if needed for ukraine and dutch investigators. But hey! it doesnt matter if you cooperate and help, you are bad, you deserve to die.

What the fuck? None of that can be proven where is the evidence saying that?

Prispeval Roncho, 22.07.2014 at 16:25

Tik-Tok atm because can't enlighten us with his knowledge.

lol'd waaaaaaay to hard xa

Prispeval UnIeashed, 22.07.2014 at 17:58

Prispeval Skanderbeg, 21.07.2014 at 09:05

Americans ordered them to fly over east ukraine, then they ordered ukrainian nazis to shoot at it. So CNN and BBC can report how russians shoot it down and 300 innocent victims is russian fault. They are even ordering their loyal dogs like UK and Australia to blame Putin. Nothing new.

30 years ago they ordered flight control to send south korean plane over USSR, although everyone knew flying over USSR is forbiden and it will be shot down instantly, USSR was clear on that matter. Yet, plane entered soviet air space and was shot down, 280 dead koreans, cnn reported how evil communists killed ''free people of the capitalist world''.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_Air_Lines_Flight_007

25 years ago US navy shot down iranian civil plane over iranian territory, all crew and passengers dead. USA used excuse how they saw military plane, so they fired, i spit on your 700 billion technology if you cant recognize civil and military plane, go back to making dog house, thats technology for you. They didnt allow investigation of course.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655

Putin ordered help to be sent, and funds if needed for ukraine and dutch investigators. But hey! it doesnt matter if you cooperate and help, you are bad, you deserve to die.

What the fuck? None of that can be proven where is the evidence saying that?

Wheres the evidence saying Russia shot it down? If you switch on CNN or BBC all they say about the incident is its Russia's fault because of the war on Ukraine.

Prispeval Goblin, 22.07.2014 at 14:53

Prispeval Guest, 22.07.2014 at 14:35

It's a quite interesting theory that the US gov had the plane shot down. I like these more ''realistic'' conspiracy theories. Such as 9/11, could it have been a inside job? It certainly was able to help create a would-be police state.

I cant believe people believe in this theory ...this is one of the examples how people love stories based on crap.

Wana know what al qaeda commanders said to iran's president when he in a speach mentioned that america did an inside job on WTC?

They responded to iran's president something like this: "omfg lol bro, u mad xD ...americans didnt fuckin knock down WTC ...WE FUCKIN DID!!! ...retards with your dumbass conspiracy theories lawl"

But ofc, they could have made it look like Al Qaeda did it. I'm not a firm believer in this, but I do find it interesting. Hell, AQ may have even lied.

Prispeval Meester, 23.07.2014 at 01:01

Prispeval UnIeashed, 22.07.2014 at 17:58

Prispeval Skanderbeg, 21.07.2014 at 09:05

Americans ordered them to fly over east ukraine, then they ordered ukrainian nazis to shoot at it. So CNN and BBC can report how russians shoot it down and 300 innocent victims is russian fault. They are even ordering their loyal dogs like UK and Australia to blame Putin. Nothing new.

30 years ago they ordered flight control to send south korean plane over USSR, although everyone knew flying over USSR is forbiden and it will be shot down instantly, USSR was clear on that matter. Yet, plane entered soviet air space and was shot down, 280 dead koreans, cnn reported how evil communists killed ''free people of the capitalist world''.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_Air_Lines_Flight_007

25 years ago US navy shot down iranian civil plane over iranian territory, all crew and passengers dead. USA used excuse how they saw military plane, so they fired, i spit on your 700 billion technology if you cant recognize civil and military plane, go back to making dog house, thats technology for you. They didnt allow investigation of course.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655

Putin ordered help to be sent, and funds if needed for ukraine and dutch investigators. But hey! it doesnt matter if you cooperate and help, you are bad, you deserve to die.

What the fuck? None of that can be proven where is the evidence saying that?

Wheres the evidence saying Russia shot it down? If you switch on CNN or BBC all they say about the incident is its Russia's fault because of the war on Ukraine.

You mean rebels, since hwo the hell could have Russia shot it down?