When should I give in?

This has nothing to do with banlists, it's got nothing to do with fascism, weird rants or anti mod comments. It has no racist, anti-Semitic comments or ideas of genocide. This is about a rather personal struggle. One which I have faced for some time. If you are close minded, get out now.

It concerns one of the key issues affecting atwar today, RP. After you read that comment you might think I am one of those whiners who say delete RP.
This isn't one of those posts. I wanted to discuss, Adog RP. Yes it's an RP, well done. Maybe you hate rp, I don't blame you. I used to hate it too, because it killed my growing maps (LoN) and created a new world of extreme noobism. The future of Adog RP seems bleak.

There are many problems with (Tempted) RP, one of the main problems are the units. The RA - tuned, bunker spamming units. These are perfect for noobs, but when they leave RP at rank 8 or 9, they will have no clue about any other strategy apart from RA. They will have no clue about budgeting. They will have no clue about any tactics of defence as Noob RA spammage doesn't require any defence.

I generally, solve these problems. Yes, I can't solve all of them, but adog RP solves many. The idea behind adog RP, was that it's RP so yes lots of unit spamming, higher than average incomes (I make my incomes are way less than Tempted's tho), but at the same time it teaches them about new strategies and new ideas. Many want to go SM, many try MoS or GW, others even try PD. So it's a transitional map. It mixes noobism with key ingredients for the future. This is why, in the RP world, those who play Adog RP are like the 3v3 community of atwar. They are the elites of the RP world. Some people are too close minded. They don't try to understand that this map is indeed an RP, but one which is designed to help cure the effects of Tempted.

I have however, been asked several times to have my RP cloned. Around 10-15 times (by the noob tempted worshippers). Why? Because they want it to have tempted units but have my good borders and other units they like from mine. Around 80-90% of tempted players (I asked around 40-50 players) would play Adog's RP instead of tempted if it had those noob units. 10/10 hosts prefer my borders and 9/10 hosts (RP hosts of course) would choose Adog RP over tempted if it had those retarded units. Very rapidly, Adog RP would become the most popular map on atwar.

If I wanted power I would have done it already. If I wanted popularity I would have done it already. If I wanted to abuse ban-list I would have done it already. The Question then is why not? Why is it, that for months I have not done anything? It's because I stand my ground. I will stick to the aim of trying to make atwar better, I will not let go of my ethics. Despite common belief I do not play RP all day, nor am I a major RP fag who likes to RA spam. Remember, before cartography, I was a ww2 player. So I will continue to fight for that better future for atwar, the one high ranks dream of.

But very since the infancy of Adog RP, I've been receiving a lot of hate - A lot of hate speech against me. Slowly of course, it makes me question myself why are we even doing this in the first place? Why fight for a high rank community, who seriously treat you like shit? Why try to make atwar a better place, when you get insulted by the noobs because they like tempted more (who then troll your games), and then walk into lobby and get assaulted by high ranks who think you just made Tempted v.2

High ranks think low ranks are ignorant. This is true in many cases. But sometimes, I think the high ranks, need to have a look at themselves first.

So here are the possible suggestions I've had facing Adog RP.

• Delete it adog, delete it! It will help atwar - No, not true. Most will just go back to Tempted RP, that wouldn't solve anything. Anyone who thinks this is illogical.
• Leave it as it is - It would help the community, but as said before... WHY should I?
• Crack. Finally give in. - Why would I give in you ask? Because at-least the noobs treat me better than this horrible ignorant close minded high rank society

But it's not necessarily the case that ALL high ranks are close minded, many such as Devils Lettuce or Black Shark see the potential. But I'm afraid if the horrible high rank society keep treating me like this I'll crack within a couple of days. And when I do, there will be the rise of a new RP map, a combination of both, currently the RP world is segregated into Nooby Tempted followers, and the more skilled Adog RP players, but when that map comes it will recombine them into a giant mesh of noobs.

So I'll leave you with a thought for the night (currently 1:33 AM for me) Good luck atwar.

[PS: If you think I am crying, well you're a hypocrite. Go cry more about how you hate RP. Fag. Because it's whiners like you who ruin atwar.]

._. Dude no one cares about your stupid scenarios or banlist and shit. Stop trynna make this scenario shit look so serious and important

Prispeval AlBoZzZ, 26.07.2014 at 19:37

._. Dude no one cares about your stupid scenarios or banlist and shit. Stop trynna make this scenario shit look so serious and important

More haters, great. This is why I just ignore posts from 3v3 players. Guess what, IDGAF about your input, because it is irrelevant to the thread.

I think I just cried a little from this :')

Prispeval Dereny, 26.07.2014 at 19:43

I think I just cried a little from this :')

Omg <3

Keep Adog RP as it is, Its a great scenario, accurate in most countries (You have to make Azores and Madeira and several other islands playable as increases the possibility of the countries expanding and expanding its spheres of influence.
Keep it like this, you make atwar better, ignore those jealous guys, they dont know what's their irl country's capital is, dont blame them.
Best Map Maker there is, its you and Utah

Prispeval AlBoZzZ, 26.07.2014 at 19:37

._. Dude no one cares about your stupid scenarios or banlist and shit. Stop trynna make this scenario shit look so serious and important

then dont read it all and play other games, no one forces you to read this and no one forces you to post on this thread. the fact that you complain about it makes you look pathetic. people have opinions just like you, start showing some respect

Prispeval Cpt.Magic, 26.07.2014 at 19:45

Who invited the father of UN faggotry here?

"High ranks think low ranks are ignorant. This is true in many cases. But sometimes, I think the high ranks, need to have a look at themselves first."

cheers for saying that, I play for fun and fun only in RP and people try to take advantage of my rank to get sp.

Prispeval Professor Adog, 26.07.2014 at 19:47

Prispeval Cpt.Magic, 26.07.2014 at 19:45

Who invited the father of UN faggotry here?

didnt you make a UN ?

Prispeval Professor Adog, 26.07.2014 at 19:38

Prispeval AlBoZzZ, 26.07.2014 at 19:37

._. Dude no one cares about your stupid scenarios or banlist and shit. Stop trynna make this scenario shit look so serious and important

More haters, great. This is why I just ignore posts from 3v3 players. Guess what, IDGAF about your input, because it is irrelevant to the thread.

I play 3vs3 will you ignore me

Prispeval joedtaxi, 26.07.2014 at 19:49

didnt you make a UN ?

Same scenario as mentioned above. Transitional UN map, and later LoN took it's place with it's superior controlled warfare.

Prispeval Professor Adog, 26.07.2014 at 19:47

Prispeval Cpt.Magic, 26.07.2014 at 19:45

Who invited the father of UN faggotry here?

Prispeval Cpt.Magic, 26.07.2014 at 19:50

Coming from you, that is rich.

Prispeval clovis1122, 26.07.2014 at 19:50

Prispeval Professor Adog, 26.07.2014 at 19:38

Prispeval AlBoZzZ, 26.07.2014 at 19:37

._. Dude no one cares about your stupid scenarios or banlist and shit. Stop trynna make this scenario shit look so serious and important

More haters, great. This is why I just ignore posts from 3v3 players. Guess what, IDGAF about your input, because it is irrelevant to the thread.

I play 3vs3 will you ignore me

Not all of them <3 some are sexy

Prispeval Professor Adog, 26.07.2014 at 19:51

Prispeval Cpt.Magic, 26.07.2014 at 19:50

Coming from you, that is rich.

Rp is fun

Prispeval Al Fappino, 26.07.2014 at 19:44

Keep Adog RP as it is, Its a great scenario, accurate in most countries (You have to make Azores and Madeira and several other islands playable as increases the possibility of the countries expanding and expanding its spheres of influence.
Keep it like this, you make atwar better, ignore those jealous guys, they dont know what's their irl country's capital is, dont blame them.
Best Map Maker there is, its you and Utah
#AdogHitter for Mod <3

Adog hitter is an alt. #ConsulAdog for mod <33333

Prispeval Cpt.Magic, 26.07.2014 at 19:53

Prispeval Professor Adog, 26.07.2014 at 19:51

Prispeval Cpt.Magic, 26.07.2014 at 19:50

*image*

Coming from you, that is rich.

*image*

Good.

Prispeval Professor Adog, 26.07.2014 at 19:55

Prispeval Cpt.Magic, 26.07.2014 at 19:53

Prispeval Professor Adog, 26.07.2014 at 19:51

Prispeval Cpt.Magic, 26.07.2014 at 19:50

*image*

Coming from you, that is rich.

*image*

Good.

Omg, why you all so mean to adog ;_;

Prispeval Pheonixking929, 26.07.2014 at 20:03

Omg, why you all so mean to adog ;_;

Idk he probably has issues

Holy shit magic, u are back

>commander eagle
>3 v 3 player
Get out, eagle is a noob.

Prispeval Professor Adog, 26.07.2014 at 19:38

Prispeval AlBoZzZ, 26.07.2014 at 19:37

._. Dude no one cares about your stupid scenarios or banlist and shit. Stop trynna make this scenario shit look so serious and important

More haters, great. This is why I just ignore posts from 3v3 players. Guess what, IDGAF about your input, because it is irrelevant to the thread.

How can i hate you or your scenarios when im not even interested in them? 3V3 players are better than any scenario player man . Keep thinking that some scenarios are in center of attention it will make you feel better. You talking about this thread like u think the rest of aw cant sleep at night because some stupid thinf u guys got going on there lol

I think amok need take all scenario and custom games out and return to Afterwind so no more shits about this lol

Prispeval AlBoZzZ, 26.07.2014 at 20:07

Prispeval Professor Adog, 26.07.2014 at 19:38

Prispeval AlBoZzZ, 26.07.2014 at 19:37

._. Dude no one cares about your stupid scenarios or banlist and shit. Stop trynna make this scenario shit look so serious and important

More haters, great. This is why I just ignore posts from 3v3 players. Guess what, IDGAF about your input, because it is irrelevant to the thread.

How can i hate you or your scenarios when im not even interested in them? 3V3 players are better than any scenario player man . Keep thinking that some scenarios are in center of attention it will make you feel better. You talking about this thread like u think the rest of aw cant sleep at night because some stupid thinf u guys got going on there lol

Don't turn this into a scenario vs 3v3 war, because last time i check: u got rape in that 3v3 when me and Marcus played and we are scenario players

Prispeval Tundy, 26.07.2014 at 20:10

Prispeval AlBoZzZ, 26.07.2014 at 20:07

Prispeval Professor Adog, 26.07.2014 at 19:38

Prispeval AlBoZzZ, 26.07.2014 at 19:37

._. Dude no one cares about your stupid scenarios or banlist and shit. Stop trynna make this scenario shit look so serious and important

More haters, great. This is why I just ignore posts from 3v3 players. Guess what, IDGAF about your input, because it is irrelevant to the thread.

How can i hate you or your scenarios when im not even interested in them? 3V3 players are better than any scenario player man . Keep thinking that some scenarios are in center of attention it will make you feel better. You talking about this thread like u think the rest of aw cant sleep at night because some stupid thinf u guys got going on there lol

Don't turn this into a scenario vs 3v3 war, because last time i check: u got rape in that 3v3 when me and Marcus played and we are scenario players

Since when beating 1 person who plays 3v3 ,means u beat all OFF 3v3? Lolz.

Here's some of my points:

1.) Adog cares about plays for his scenarios. He only bothered to try to help replace RP because RP was taking away from the plays for his maps.
2.) You say you hate the ignorance of high rank players, yet you referenced earlier on that there are lots of high ranks who emerge from RP as noobs. So how can high ranks who achieved their high ranks with RP be ignorant to a topic about RP? I think you want to say 'ignorant competitive players' instead of ignorant high ranks, but you probably are afraid of the rebuttal if you said that. So you used ignorant high ranks instead.
3.) There will always be noobs who wish to RA spam. Doesn't matter what maps are out there. At first 50k world was the problem. Then it was UN. Now it's RP. You take away RP they go back to UN. You take away UN they go back to 50k world. Only difference is they don't gain as much SP.
4.) You forget that the individuals of every player in atwar are what contributes to the overall status of the community. You cannot be a puppet master controlling the strings. Trying to force certain players to play what you think is best for atwar. If the community thought CWs were bad for the community and removed it, i'd play 3v3. If the community said 3v3 was bad for the community and removed it, I wouldn't play atwar anymore. The same will happen for those everybody thinks RP and UN are bad for the community. Atwar would become less active and devs won't have any reason to continue updating the game if we tried to force people to play games they didn't like.

Adog, what about u stop being an attention whore and delete your UN/RP