The Tragedy of Venezula

Most tragedy after WW2, USA is responsible for it in one way or another. Though I don't blame America for me forgetting to wipe the toilet seat after I pee, which for my roommate is a huge tragedy.

Prispeval Tumancool, 07.07.2018 at 13:35

Though I don't blame America for me forgetting to wipe the toilet seat after I pee, which for my roommate is a huge tragedy.

Every morning during highschool my brother would blame me for pissing on the toilet seat, some days i hadn't even gone toilet and he would come running out the toilet screaming saying i pissed on the toilet seat. This is like one of those weird conspiracy things aint it... idk what it all means but i think its got something to do with the pyramids.

Prispeval Guest, 07.07.2018 at 16:55

Prispeval Tumancool, 07.07.2018 at 13:35

Though I don't blame America for me forgetting to wipe the toilet seat after I pee, which for my roommate is a huge tragedy.

Every morning during highschool my brother would blame me for pissing on the toilet seat, some days i hadn't even gone toilet and he would come running out the toilet screaming saying i pissed on the toilet seat. This is like one of those weird conspiracy things aint it... idk what it all means but i think its got something to do with the pyramids.

Prispeval Tumancool, 07.07.2018 at 13:35

Most tragedy after WW2, USA is responsible for it in one way or another. Though I don't blame America for me forgetting to wipe the toilet seat after I pee, which for my roommate is a huge tragedy.

Your aim sucks doesn't it

Again, how is it possible that resource-rich country have poor people and national crisis?


Venezuela: $14 trillion resource worth = sanctioned
Iraq: $15 trillion resource worth = sanctioned/invaded/occupied
Congo: $24 trillion resource worth = anarchy/poverty/west funded rebels
Iran: $27 trillion resource worth = sanctioned/under threat of invasion
Saudi Arabia: $34 trillion resource worth = staunch US ally/US never mentions their crime record
Russia: $75 trillion resource worth = sanctioned/under threat of invasion


Hmm, i think i see a pattern here.

Prispeval Tumancool, 07.07.2018 at 13:35

Most tragedy after WW2, USA is responsible for it in one way or another. Though I don't blame America for me forgetting to wipe the toilet seat after I pee, which for my roommate is a huge tragedy.

how about Communism hmmm or is it just like always whit Liberals/Leftists/Socialists/Communists/Progressive's never to take responsibility for their own failings and failed policies
also lets not forget the Nazi's were also Extreme Left Nutjobs maybe there is a Pattern in all this

Prispeval Seranox, 08.07.2018 at 12:20

Prispeval Tumancool, 07.07.2018 at 13:35

Most tragedy after WW2, USA is responsible for it in one way or another. Though I don't blame America for me forgetting to wipe the toilet seat after I pee, which for my roommate is a huge tragedy.

how about Communism hmmm or is it just like always whit Liberals/Leftists/Socialists/Communists/Progressive's never to take responsibility for their own failings and failed policies
also lets not forget the Nazi's were also Extreme Left Nutjobs maybe there is a Pattern in all this

I hope your pattern and findings dosnt require me to find a new roommate just because I forget to wipe the toilet seat. total bullock

Those damn fucking western imperialist scum.

Prispeval Skanderbeg, 08.07.2018 at 10:30

Again, how is it possible that resource-rich country have poor people and national crisis?


Venezuela: $14 trillion resource worth = sanctioned
Iraq: $15 trillion resource worth = sanctioned/invaded/occupied
Congo: $24 trillion resource worth = anarchy/poverty/west funded rebels
Iran: $27 trillion resource worth = sanctioned/under threat of invasion
Saudi Arabia: $34 trillion resource worth = staunch US ally/US never mentions their crime record
Russia: $75 trillion resource worth = sanctioned/under threat of invasion


Hmm, i think i see a pattern here.

meh the Iraq one was a False Flag invasion... regarding the WMD's... however the USA were legitimate in kicking out Iraq out of Kuwait "afther Saddam refused to repay the loan he took to wage war vs Iran from Kuwait" < Edit: and invaded Kuwait
Venezuela - "Democratic" Socialist Shithole (Nuff Said)
Iran - Regressive Dictatorship "shrouded" as a Republic
Saudi - Regressive Dictatorship - who commit warcrimes in Yemen but as you stated... they are safe cause they be the Oil Pet of USA
Russia - i'd say the opinions about Russia are too biased wich i belief is a Left Over from the Cold War and USSR...

Prispeval Skanderbeg, 08.07.2018 at 10:30

Again, how is it possible that resource-rich country have poor people and national crisis?


Venezuela: $14 trillion resource worth = sanctioned
Iraq: $15 trillion resource worth = sanctioned/invaded/occupied
Congo: $24 trillion resource worth = anarchy/poverty/west funded rebels
Iran: $27 trillion resource worth = sanctioned/under threat of invasion
Saudi Arabia: $34 trillion resource worth = staunch US ally/US never mentions their crime record
Russia: $75 trillion resource worth = sanctioned/under threat of invasion


Hmm, i think i see a pattern here.

The pattern you see there is that every resource-rich country you've mentioned are governed by oligarchies or if you want to be more conservative, aristocracies that hold the State hostage and govern it strongly, holding and profitting from the natural resources and riches at the same time they falsely-illude the people with false senses of prosperity and stability.
Those Oligarchies and Aristocracies can vary on their original baseline:
Venezuela - It's an ideological/partidary aristocracy, where the Party has full reins of the State's central institutions (through unconstitutional policies though), (whilst the opposition holds the autonomous political organs, which gives us a curious insight of how every non-prone to State-intervention organ is almost entirely held by the opposition).
Essentially, the Socialist Party there runs the State, subjecting it to their will. The Party is controlled by a close-minority of Top Guns loyal to Nicolás Maduro, the 2nd most ridiculous dude that country has ever seen, after the wannabe Bolívar, Hugo Chávez. The State and thus the party holds the natural resources and conceals them from exploration to benefit the whole collectivity. And when it did make that, being the socialists they are, they did not consent to private enterprise that would allow economical diversification and thus lead to a more Crisis-Resistant economy, since that would remove them power, and then this happens, a humanitarian crisis.
Iraq - Basically prior to the US invasion owned by a totalitaristic Hussein family and fellow aristocrats who amassed the country's wealth, combined to the ruinous State enterprises like the invasion of Kuweit or the war on Iran brought the country to distress and vulnerability against Oil-eaters like America. People suffer because the national wealth those natural resources brought weren't employed to the State to benefit everyone but only a small few + other aspects that led to this such as the 2003 War and ISIS
Congo - Involved in Guerrillas, plus the Leopold governance of the area back in the 19th century impoverished it for decades with the agressive rubber plantations and starvation of the "natives", combined with Dictatorships and subdevelopment, will take them years to develop themselves.
Iran - Religious Aristocratic Fundamentalism, no need to say more
Saudi Arabia - Family Aristocracy holding all the wealth, while not providing the full benefits to the people, amassing a sizeable portion of the wealth for the Royal Family (though they have lots of social benefits there)
Russia - Traditional Oligarchic Rule and Chronical Corruption

You're seeing the patterns wrong honestly

Prispeval Seranox, 08.07.2018 at 12:20

also lets not forget the Nazi's were also Extreme Left Nutjobs maybe there is a Pattern in all this

National-Socialism was ultra far-right, there's wide consensus about this..

Prispeval Al Fappino, 08.07.2018 at 14:46

Prispeval Seranox, 08.07.2018 at 12:20

also lets not forget the Nazi's were also Extreme Left Nutjobs maybe there is a Pattern in all this

National-Socialism was ultra far-right, there's wide consensus about this..

My own grandfather fought for the Wehrmacht and explained it to me like this "The Nazi's Concidered themselves Socialists First Nationalist Second"
So if you could link me to that "Concensus" cause i call Bullshit on this as Nazism & Communism are 2 Sides of the Same Coin, a.k.a. the Black Death and the Red Plague

Prispeval Seranox, 08.07.2018 at 15:21

Prispeval Al Fappino, 08.07.2018 at 14:46

Prispeval Seranox, 08.07.2018 at 12:20

also lets not forget the Nazi's were also Extreme Left Nutjobs maybe there is a Pattern in all this

National-Socialism was ultra far-right, there's wide consensus about this..

My own grandfather fought for the Wehrmacht and explained it to me like this "The Nazi's Concidered themselves Socialists First Nationalist Second"
So if you could link me to that "Concensus" cause i call Bullshit on this as Nazism & Communism are 2 Sides of the Same Coin, a.k.a. the Black Death and the Red Plague

ur grandfather is a liar

Prispeval boywind2, 08.07.2018 at 15:41

Prispeval Seranox, 08.07.2018 at 15:21

Prispeval Al Fappino, 08.07.2018 at 14:46

Prispeval Seranox, 08.07.2018 at 12:20

also lets not forget the Nazi's were also Extreme Left Nutjobs maybe there is a Pattern in all this

National-Socialism was ultra far-right, there's wide consensus about this..

My own grandfather fought for the Wehrmacht and explained it to me like this "The Nazi's Concidered themselves Socialists First Nationalist Second"
So if you could link me to that "Concensus" cause i call Bullshit on this as Nazism & Communism are 2 Sides of the Same Coin, a.k.a. the Black Death and the Red Plague

ur grandfather is a liar

how is it he lied to me? do elaborate if your able

Prispeval Seranox, 08.07.2018 at 15:21

Prispeval Al Fappino, 08.07.2018 at 14:46

Prispeval Seranox, 08.07.2018 at 12:20

also lets not forget the Nazi's were also Extreme Left Nutjobs maybe there is a Pattern in all this

National-Socialism was ultra far-right, there's wide consensus about this..

My own grandfather fought for the Wehrmacht and explained it to me like this "The Nazi's Concidered themselves Socialists First Nationalist Second"
So if you could link me to that "Concensus" cause i call Bullshit on this as Nazism & Communism are 2 Sides of the Same Coin, a.k.a. the Black Death and the Red Plague

There's divergence among Historians and experts in Political Science whether Fascism and National Socialism are placed on the "far-right" side of the spectrum or on the contraire, on the "far-left" spectrum. However, there's general consensus, though contested that Fascism and National Socialism are far-right political doctrines (or doctrinary courses of action). I tend to personally consider them as far-right political doctrines, as they uphold tradition, reject stagnating conservatism and tolerate Capitalism as a way of serving the ulterior needs of the (Fascist) State (as fascists defended) and of the Volk (as the Nazis defended - See how also you cannot associate both as being the same?) whether Communism rejected the State, which they see as a Repression Instrument to perpetuate Capitalism and the exploitation of men by other men (See Marx's Theory of History) and advocated for the State to be a mere instrument to achieve a classless sociate and then Communism. There's no real direct paralel between the three major doctrinary ideologies of the 20th century, whatever way people wish to depict them.

Personally I think people tend to mis-place Fascism and National Socialism as Far-Left Doctrines because they mis-understand that Totalitarian Regimes = Far Left. Totalitarianism is not the criteria to consider them as Far Left, but to assess the behaviour, attitude and organization of the State/Political System, which obeys to 5 criteria to 6 criteria that can be found in Communism (and exacerbated to totalitarism with Stalin), Fascism and Nazism. You can find these criteria (I forgot them sorry xD and I lost the book somewhere in my bookshelf) very well written both in Hannah Arendt's book I'm mentioning infra and on Prélot & Lescuyer's History of Political Thought, another great book that approaches even the most minute and insignificant of political thoughts like Maurras or others, that influenced Fascism.

If you're really interested about these things about Political Thought and to deepen your curiosity about Totalitarisms and their spectrum placement (personally believe spectrums are an outdated concept from the french revolution) I suggest you to read Hannah Arendt's Origins of Totalitarianism, which is considered as the founding-book to studies of Fascism, Nazism and Communism, beyond the Marx's, Mussolini's and Hitler's "doctrinary" writings.

Regarding what your grandfather used to say, Goebbels himself publicaly admitted (or wrote somewhere, don't remember) that National-Socialism had as a goal to construct the true Socialism, and thus explaining in part why the anti-socialist and anti-communist nazi stance. Besides that, National-Socialism is entirely built on the exacerbation of the Volk, the People as the ultimate and absolute value to honour, respect and provide to, using the State not as an end to all things, like Fascism but as a mean to the end, which in Nazism was the People and the People only, hence the Socialistic conception they had, though they associated Nationalism and Socialism pretty closely at the same level.

If you also want to read more on this you can read History of Political Thought, Volume IV, by Jean Touchard, which gives you decent insight on Fascism and Nazism (tho if I were you I'd buy all 4 volumes, they're small xd)

Sorry for the long-text

Prispeval Al Fappino, 08.07.2018 at 15:59

Prispeval Seranox, 08.07.2018 at 15:21

Prispeval Al Fappino, 08.07.2018 at 14:46

Prispeval Seranox, 08.07.2018 at 12:20

also lets not forget the Nazi's were also Extreme Left Nutjobs maybe there is a Pattern in all this

National-Socialism was ultra far-right, there's wide consensus about this..

My own grandfather fought for the Wehrmacht and explained it to me like this "The Nazi's Concidered themselves Socialists First Nationalist Second"
So if you could link me to that "Concensus" cause i call Bullshit on this as Nazism & Communism are 2 Sides of the Same Coin, a.k.a. the Black Death and the Red Plague

There's divergence among Historians and experts in Political Science whether Fascism and National Socialism are placed on the "far-right" side of the spectrum or on the contraire, on the "far-left" spectrum. However, there's general consensus, though contested that Fascism and National Socialism are far-right political doctrines (or doctrinary courses of action). I tend to personally consider them as far-right political doctrines, as they uphold tradition, reject stagnating conservatism and tolerate Capitalism as a way of serving the ulterior needs of the (Fascist) State (as fascists defended) and of the Volk (as the Nazis defended - See how also you cannot associate both as being the same?) whether Communism rejected the State, which they see as a Repression Instrument to perpetuate Capitalism and the exploitation of men by other men (See Marx's Theory of History) and advocated for the State to be a mere instrument to achieve a classless sociate and then Communism. There's no real direct paralel between the three major doctrinary ideologies of the 20th century, whatever way people wish to depict them.

Personally I think people tend to mis-place Fascism and National Socialism as Far-Left Doctrines because they mis-understand that Totalitarian Regimes = Far Left. Totalitarianism is not the criteria to consider them as Far Left, but to assess the behaviour, attitude and organization of the State/Political System, which obeys to 5 criteria to 6 criteria that can be found in Communism (and exacerbated to totalitarism with Stalin), Fascism and Nazism. You can find these criteria (I forgot them sorry xD and I lost the book somewhere in my bookshelf) very well written both in Hannah Arendt's book I'm mentioning infra and on Prélot & Lescuyer's History of Political Thought, another great book that approaches even the most minute and insignificant of political thoughts like Maurras or others, that influenced Fascism.

If you're really interested about these things about Political Thought and to deepen your curiosity about Totalitarisms and their spectrum placement (personally believe spectrums are an outdated concept from the french revolution) I suggest you to read Hannah Arendt's Origins of Totalitarianism, which is considered as the founding-book to studies of Fascism, Nazism and Communism, beyond the Marx's, Mussolini's and Hitler's "doctrinary" writings.

Regarding what your grandfather used to say, Goebbels himself publicaly admitted (or wrote somewhere, don't remember) that National-Socialism had as a goal to construct the true Socialism, and thus explaining in part why the anti-socialist and anti-communist nazi stance. Besides that, National-Socialism is entirely built on the exacerbation of the Volk, the People as the ultimate and absolute value to honour, respect and provide to, using the State not as an end to all things, like Fascism but as a mean to the end, which in Nazism was the People and the People only, hence the Socialistic conception they had, though they associated Nationalism and Socialism pretty closely at the same level.

If you also want to read more on this you can read History of Political Thought, Volume IV, by Jean Touchard, which gives you decent insight on Fascism and Nazism (tho if I were you I'd buy all 4 volumes, they're small xd)

Sorry for the long-text

nah to be honest i appriciate it, atleast it gives some perspective on the matter instead of "your grandfather is a liar" so thanks for that:)

Prispeval Seranox, 08.07.2018 at 16:05

nah to be honest i appriciate it, atleast it gives some perspective on the matter instead of "your grandfather is a liar" so thanks for that:)

The other player is a troll or was messing around, your grandfather wasn't wrong at all, Nazism is based on the collective people rather than the State, simple as that

(Inb4 Tik-Tok awakes from his exile in Valhala or Himmler's grave and calls me a libertarian douche)

Prispeval Al Fappino, 08.07.2018 at 14:45

You're seeing the patterns wrong honestly

You mentioned only oligarchs, but every country has them. So how is that related only to resource-rich countries? Clear pattern we see for resource-rich nations is sanctions and/or western intervention.

Japan went most further appeasing their oligarchs, by allocating equal shares of jobs to corporations (example: they must build new roads, lets say 10km, and all japan have 5 construction companies, that mean the government will give 2km each company to build road, and will pay them for that, thus removing competition). And to be honest, i dont see other way to solve the problem. Even if this is the closest we can get to it.

Putin tries to allocate jobs/projects to corporations as well, but it doesnt work because russian oligarchs are same as american (typical white), so it doesnt yield results as in yellow-raced(disciplined) japan.

Third example i can use is Norway, but no clear proof they contain their oligarchs, just that they have more stable relations between oligarchs-state than the others.

Prispeval Skanderbeg, 08.07.2018 at 17:13

Prispeval Al Fappino, 08.07.2018 at 14:45

You're seeing the patterns wrong honestly

You mentioned only oligarchs, but every country has them. So how is that related only to resource-rich countries? Clear pattern we see for resource-rich nations is sanctions and/or western intervention.

Japan went most further appeasing their oligarchs, by allocating equal shares of jobs to corporations (example: they must build new roads, lets say 10km, and all japan have 5 construction companies, that mean the government will give 2km each company to build road, and will pay them for that, thus removing competition). And to be honest, i dont see other way to solve the problem. Even if this is the closest we can get to it.

Putin tries to allocate jobs/projects to corporations as well, but it doesnt work because russian oligarchs are same as american (typical white), so it doesnt yield results as in yellow-raced(disciplined) japan.

Third example i can use is Norway, but no clear proof they contain their oligarchs, just that they have more stable relations between oligarchs-state than the others.

I think you missed entirely the very concept of what an Oligarchy means..don't wanna be snobbish but Oligarchy means a government ruled by the rich/powerful. Calling the average rich guy an oligarch is just a fancy name the common people had for the rich, but it infact means those who have grips to power..

Prispeval Seranox, 08.07.2018 at 12:20

Prispeval Tumancool, 07.07.2018 at 13:35

Most tragedy after WW2, USA is responsible for it in one way or another. Though I don't blame America for me forgetting to wipe the toilet seat after I pee, which for my roommate is a huge tragedy.

how about Communism hmmm or is it just like always whit Liberals/Leftists/Socialists/Communists/Progressive's never to take responsibility for their own failings and failed policies
also lets not forget the Nazi's were also Extreme Left Nutjobs maybe there is a Pattern in all this

Socialism sucks for any non germanic country, we get it. Thing is retards don't and think, oh free college, free healthcare amazing

Oligarches inherited all the property of USSR (not only Russia's) and never gave it back. They are nothing but traitors and fighting them was the best thing Putin could do for his nation.

Prispeval Al Fappino, 08.07.2018 at 17:27

I think you missed entirely the very concept of what an Oligarchy means..don't wanna be snobbish but Oligarchy means a government ruled by the rich/powerful. Calling the average rich guy an oligarch is just a fancy name the common people had for the rich, but it infact means those who have grips to power..

There is no such thing as 'average rich' guy. Even those becoming rich 'by accident' (internet, stocks, luck) are sucked in the circle of oligarhy. There is no other way.

So, tell me one rich guy that doesnt influence or tend to influence the government policy concerning his profit? (regulations in his sphere of business, taxes, inspections, sanctions)

Tell me one big project with lots of money that government announce, where rich didnt get involved for a share of profit?

Prispeval Skanderbeg, 09.07.2018 at 12:47

There is no such thing as 'average rich' guy. Even those becoming rich 'by accident' (internet, stocks, luck) are sucked in the circle of oligarhy. There is no other way.

So, tell me one rich guy that doesnt influence or tend to influence the government policy concerning his profit? (regulations in his sphere of business, taxes, inspections, sanctions)

Tell me one big project with lots of money that government announce, where rich didnt get involved for a share of profit?

I'll reply to this once you read Plato and Aristotle and understand the actual concept of Oligarchy as it's true meaning, I broke it down for you twice on the thread..

Prispeval Al Fappino, 09.07.2018 at 15:00

I'll reply to this once you read Plato and Aristotle and understand the actual concept of Oligarchy as it's true meaning, I broke it down for you twice on the thread..

Sigh... i've read Plato already, that is different from modern oligarchy because times and things changed... Some things you cant compare or make equal.

Prispeval Skanderbeg, 09.07.2018 at 15:57

Prispeval Al Fappino, 09.07.2018 at 15:00

I'll reply to this once you read Plato and Aristotle and understand the actual concept of Oligarchy as it's true meaning, I broke it down for you twice on the thread..

Sigh... i've read Plato already, that is different from modern oligarchy because times and things changed... Some things you cant compare or make equal.

Sometimes definitions shaped by the course of time no matter how massified they can be, can still be quite wrong. Oligarchy on modern times mean the richest of the richest detaining the State, that happens at varying intensities across the world but the list you mentioned are some of those where oligarchies are stronger..

Prispeval Guest, 07.07.2018 at 16:55

Prispeval Tumancool, 07.07.2018 at 13:35

Though I don't blame America for me forgetting to wipe the toilet seat after I pee, which for my roommate is a huge tragedy.

Every morning during highschool my brother would blame me for pissing on the toilet seat, some days i hadn't even gone toilet and he would come running out the toilet screaming saying i pissed on the toilet seat. This is like one of those weird conspiracy things aint it... idk what it all means but i think its got something to do with the pyramids.

Damn, sounds tragic.

Prispeval Skanderbeg, 08.07.2018 at 17:13

Prispeval Al Fappino, 08.07.2018 at 14:45

You're seeing the patterns wrong honestly

You mentioned only oligarchs, but every country has them. So how is that related only to resource-rich countries? Clear pattern we see for resource-rich nations is sanctions and/or western intervention.

Japan went most further appeasing their oligarchs, by allocating equal shares of jobs to corporations (example: they must build new roads, lets say 10km, and all japan have 5 construction companies, that mean the government will give 2km each company to build road, and will pay them for that, thus removing competition). And to be honest, i dont see other way to solve the problem. Even if this is the closest we can get to it.

Putin tries to allocate jobs/projects to corporations as well, but it doesnt work because russian oligarchs are same as american (typical white), so it doesnt yield results as in yellow-raced(disciplined) japan.

Third example i can use is Norway, but no clear proof they contain their oligarchs, just that they have more stable relations between oligarchs-state than the others.

Norway's an interesting case, Sanders during the 2016 election had took the examples of Denmark and other nations as Socialist nations, but in truth they are mixed economies.
In return, Denmark's PM told him to stop comparing them to a socialist nation. - https://www.investors.com/politics/commentary/denmark-tells-bernie-sanders-to-stop-calling-it-socialist/

The strongest economies are those of which take the best out of the two system and put what we see in Modern America put together. To much of anything is a bad thing, and as We have seen in government's past, wether it be from a right to rule out of dynasty, royalty, or out of the idea of progression of the state. The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

Still true to this day, despite all of our political issues, the United States as a nation is still the most wealthiest nation on this earth, the other nation that comes closest to us is China, which still despite it's influence as a financial superpower, has a long way to go.

Prispeval Seranox, 08.07.2018 at 15:21

Prispeval Al Fappino, 08.07.2018 at 14:46

Prispeval Seranox, 08.07.2018 at 12:20

also lets not forget the Nazi's were also Extreme Left Nutjobs maybe there is a Pattern in all this

National-Socialism was ultra far-right, there's wide consensus about this..

My own grandfather fought for the Wehrmacht and explained it to me like this "The Nazi's Concidered themselves Socialists First Nationalist Second"
So if you could link me to that "Concensus" cause i call Bullshit on this as Nazism & Communism are 2 Sides of the Same Coin, a.k.a. the Black Death and the Red Plague

No

http://prntscr.com/k5t76a

Prispeval Unleashed, 12.07.2018 at 17:07

Prispeval Seranox, 08.07.2018 at 15:21

Prispeval Al Fappino, 08.07.2018 at 14:46

Prispeval Seranox, 08.07.2018 at 12:20

also lets not forget the Nazi's were also Extreme Left Nutjobs maybe there is a Pattern in all this

National-Socialism was ultra far-right, there's wide consensus about this..

My own grandfather fought for the Wehrmacht and explained it to me like this "The Nazi's Concidered themselves Socialists First Nationalist Second"
So if you could link me to that "Concensus" cause i call Bullshit on this as Nazism & Communism are 2 Sides of the Same Coin, a.k.a. the Black Death and the Red Plague

No

http://prntscr.com/k5t76a

is there a point for this "no - the screen and the Vid"