God doesn't exist

I choose to believe no specific theory (I lean to big bang theory, but even that is flawed), all of them have their own reasons to be real (I discredit the bible since it's essentially going backwards from science - "here is the conclusion, what can be make up from it" where are science/logic is more "here is the evidence, what conclusions can we get").

The big bang has supporting evidence, because of entities moving further apart, therefore they had to be together at one point to happen.

I was recently forwarded a video on simulation reality, and like Brian stated, it makes sense but also begs the question who/what made us, and what was their beginning, also did they create AI, or a program. If we are AI, therefore what if we were to also create a virtual AI in lets say sims, would they have their own laws, history, ect. Also information takes time to travel (distance/time) therefore it would make sense why the universe is expanding as we know it because the "run command" (as Brian called it) is still reaching out.

A bit of a math scenario to think about, if space/time has a beginning their is an end, but if it is infinitely big, what is to say it can not be infinitely small on the smallest scale imaginable (10^-n) meaning it has no beginning.

Overall, we could guess forever - I don't see us coming up with a realistic answer until we learn to control the 4th dimension (time). Only way to really know what happened in the "start" if there ever even was one, or if everything was just infinitely small.

For a interesting debate related to Religion vs Science, look up "Bill Nye v Ken Ham" It's quite ironic I was listening to this recently, in my opinion creationists (Ken Ham) got quite owned to say the least since it refers back to my first paragraph of all of his evidence being made up from a conclusion.
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=ken+ham+vs+bill+nye
A more summarized version, basically a Bill Nye roasting compilation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9A-F8JEFyY

Prispeval Khal.eesi, 05.04.2017 at 15:10

Prispeval Free_Warrior, 05.04.2017 at 14:59

Watch this video:

Yeah so? What does that have to do with religion, god, science, the universe and evolution?

And even so, what does this prove exactly? This video i meant for entertainment and not to be used as data to draw conclusions from.

do you read my post or smh?
I asked what can you expect from people who believe these things.....
Liberals often rejects any religious idea but at the same time some of them believe in the idea about 70 genders. and I want to know how this is possible?

Prispeval Free_Warrior, 05.04.2017 at 15:28

Prispeval Khal.eesi, 05.04.2017 at 15:10

Prispeval Free_Warrior, 05.04.2017 at 14:59

Watch this video:

Yeah so? What does that have to do with religion, god, science, the universe and evolution?

And even so, what does this prove exactly? This video i meant for entertainment and not to be used as data to draw conclusions from.

do you read my post or smh?
I asked what can you expect from people who believe these things.....
Liberals often rejects any religious idea but at the same time some of them believe in the idea about 70 genders. and I want to know how this is possible?

It's almost as if there's a diverse number of "liberals" ranging from moderates to hard left to extremist.

God is a Serb

Prispeval Free_Warrior, 05.04.2017 at 15:28

do you read my post or smh?
I asked what can you expect from people who believe these things.....
Liberals often rejects any religious idea but at the same time some of them believe in the idea about 70 genders. and I want to know how this is possible?

I will skip over the fact that your main question is logically fallacious, since being wrong about something does not mean you are wrong in everything else too.

So lets see, what does these people believe? (liberals) Most of them believe there is a distinction between biological gender and enforced social norms associated with that gender. Thats it, nothing more, nothing less.

Some people take it too far and say all kinds of retarded shit and thats true (70 genders? dont know what is that..) but to any decently educated person these people are just as funny as the classic conservatives who say shit like "women are wired to do ...." or " real men do ...." or "god created us to do ..." without knowing even the basics about the human body and its function.


Anyway if you want a tldr; i can make a similar sentence.

After basing your whole life and your whole existence on the teachings of a badly written 2000 old book, what can one expect from you?

Prispeval Darkmace, 05.04.2017 at 15:25

I choose to believe no specific theory (I lean to big bang theory, but even that is flawed), all of them have their own reasons to be real (I discredit the bible since it's essentially going backwards from science - "here is the conclusion, what can be make up from it" where are science/logic is more "here is the evidence, what conclusions can we get").

The big bang has supporting evidence, because of entities moving further apart, therefore they had to be together at one point to happen.

I was recently forwarded a video on simulation reality, and like Brian stated, it makes sense but also begs the question who/what made us, and what was their beginning, also did they create AI, or a program. If we are AI, therefore what if we were to also create a virtual AI in lets say sims, would they have their own laws, history, ect. Also information takes time to travel (distance/time) therefore it would make sense why the universe is expanding as we know it because the "run command" (as Brian called it) is still reaching out.

A bit of a math scenario to think about, if space/time has a beginning their is an end, but if it is infinitely big, what is to say it can not be infinitely small on the smallest scale imaginable (10^-x) meaning it has no beginning.

Overall, we could guess forever - I don't see us coming up with a realistic answer until we learn to control the 4th dimension (time). Only way to really know what happened in the "start" if there ever even was one, or if everything was just infinitely small.

For a interesting debate related to Religion vs Science, look up "Bill Nye v Ken Ham" It's quite ironic I was listening to this recently, in my opinion creationists (Ken Ham) got quite owned to say the least since it refers back to my first paragraph of all of his evidence being made up from a conclusion.
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=ken+ham+vs+bill+nye

Prispeval brianwl, 04.04.2017 at 07:43

i have come to interpret the universe as a computer simulation.

Agreed. Im flirting with the simulation theory myself, although the big bang is not written off yet and they are not mutually exclusive offcourse. A universe could expand and collapse to a black hole and then expand again and do that indefinately, or expand enough to rip apart time and space and lord knows what happens then or be a part of a huge multiverse and etc

By the way in case you havent seen it, you should watch this brilliant brilliant panel talk show

Prispeval Khal.eesi, 05.04.2017 at 15:49

Prispeval Free_Warrior, 05.04.2017 at 15:28

do you read my post or smh?
I asked what can you expect from people who believe these things.....
Liberals often rejects any religious idea but at the same time some of them believe in the idea about 70 genders. and I want to know how this is possible?

I will skip over the fact that your main question is logically fallacious, since being wrong about something does not mean you are wrong in everything else too.

So lets see, what does these people believe? (liberals) Most of them believe there is a distinction between biological gender and enforced social norms associated with that gender. Thats it, nothing more, nothing less.

Some people take it too far and say all kinds of retarded shit and thats true (70 genders? dont know what is that..) but to any decently educated person these people are just as funny as the classic conservatives who say shit like "women are wired to do ...." or " real men do ...." or "god created us to do ..." without knowing even the basics about the human body and its function.


Anyway if you want a tldr; i can make a similar sentence.

After basing your whole life and your whole existence on the teachings of a badly written 2000 old book, what can one expect from you?

well i can see some of you (''liberals'') are really triggered at christians conservatives and anyone who isn't liberal since you have lost in raw several important elections.....

Insulting any religion won't give you the reason and insulting Christianism and the Church either.
Look these social norms associated with this gender ehm that is bullshit. If you want to see al your town streets full of this reatdrs from the video go and celebrate the ''diversity''. Instead of fighting against salary disequality and help cities in war liberals are arguing about this shit.
As i have seen your tactic is insulting and thinking you're better than others ehm that won't work dude.

Prispeval Free_Warrior, 05.04.2017 at 16:24

Prispeval Khal.eesi, 05.04.2017 at 15:49

Prispeval Free_Warrior, 05.04.2017 at 15:28

do you read my post or smh?
I asked what can you expect from people who believe these things.....
Liberals often rejects any religious idea but at the same time some of them believe in the idea about 70 genders. and I want to know how this is possible?

I will skip over the fact that your main question is logically fallacious, since being wrong about something does not mean you are wrong in everything else too.

So lets see, what does these people believe? (liberals) Most of them believe there is a distinction between biological gender and enforced social norms associated with that gender. Thats it, nothing more, nothing less.

Some people take it too far and say all kinds of retarded shit and thats true (70 genders? dont know what is that..) but to any decently educated person these people are just as funny as the classic conservatives who say shit like "women are wired to do ...." or " real men do ...." or "god created us to do ..." without knowing even the basics about the human body and its function.


Anyway if you want a tldr; i can make a similar sentence.

After basing your whole life and your whole existence on the teachings of a badly written 2000 old book, what can one expect from you?

Look these social norms associated with this gender ehm that is bullshit. If you want to see al your town streets full of this reatdrs from the video go and celebrate the ''diversity''. Instead of fighting against salary disequality and help cities in war liberals are arguing about this shit.

All yes fighting salary inequality by electing republicans who only enrich the 1% and cut taxes for the 1%.

What I love the most about you right wingers is that you like to claim, supply side economic works for everybody. You love to point at the growth during the reagan era. Yes the economy grew, but who is getting the money as a result of the growth? The rich of course.

Average wage barely increased and has remained stagnant while the cost of living has gone up. Everything from education to healthcare has skyrocketed since the 20th century while wages barely increased.

Keep voting for people who only enrich the rich.

Just reading this like

Prispeval RaulPB, 05.04.2017 at 10:31

Prispeval brianwl, 04.04.2017 at 07:43

True... though the big bang theory is something from nothing, which violates causality and is therefor mystical by scientific standards.

As many of you have heard me say before, i have come to interpret the universe as a computer simulation. 'God' would be the programmer. (Like The Sims would view their programmer, or like Amok, to an infantry unit in AW).
The Big Bang Theory is the moment the 'run' command was entered for the first time (nothing existed before the run button was hit, and suddenly, the Sims universe began, or like the first world map game was played.)
We are players in the game and we make decisions for our player. (Just like in a computer game - sending tanks, or having your Sim character eat something.)

I can go on, but the evidence speaks for itself.

So what is god? Consciousness... and we are a part of it.

And does consciousness exist? Depends on who you ask. But it can't be measured in a material universe (just like it can't be measured in the Sims or AW universe)

Big bang doesn't come from nothing, yet we don't know where it comes from. Although I gotta say it's just a theory which seems to fit our current data.

...

To say Big bang doesn't come from nothing is not something i have heard of in my (limited) research on this. i am not aware of a single scientist or theory that has put forth any evidence that there was anything the moment before the Big Bang.

I have heard lots of top scientists lament over the fact that Big Bang Theory violates causality, and that they have no ideas what preceded the Big Bang. There are some highly improbable, untestable (or at best, yet to be testable) theories put forth, but in general, scientists have simply accepted that based on the evidence at hand, our entire universe came from a single point in space and time.

Sounds an awful like someone hitting the run button on a computer to me, so until i hear of another model that fits the data available, i have to say this is the not only the best one, but the only one i am aware, and there's no inconsistencies in it of which i am aware, so i don't mind adopting it (at least for now, until something better comes along.) ♥

Prispeval brianwl, 05.04.2017 at 18:02

To say Big bang doesn't come from nothing is not something i have heard of in my (limited) research on this. i am not aware of a single scientist or theory that has put forth any evidence that there was anything the moment before the Big Bang.

I have heard lots of top scientists lament over the fact that Big Bang Theory violates causality, and that they have no ideas what preceded the Big Bang. There are some highly improbable, untestable (or at best, yet to be testable) theories put forth, but in general, scientists have simply accepted that based on the evidence at hand, our entire universe came from a single point in space and time.

Sounds an awful like someone hitting the run button on a computer to me, so until i hear of another model that fits the data available, i have to say this is the not only the best one, but the only one i am aware, and there's no inconsistencies in it of which i am aware, so i don't mind adopting it (at least for now, until something better comes along.)

Ofc, as I said, we don't know from where it comes from, still that doesn't mean it came from nothing. As I said in that same post, it could have come from a loop of dark holes. There would be no need for a "run button", just a collapsing black hole with no more matter to amass. Ofc we can't have much evidence of this happening, as well as we can't have evidence of there not being anything at all.

Btw, be sure that some day in the future, better theories will arrise! (or at least, more complete ones) Anyway, I'm quite skeptic about ever been able to know what really happened unless we get to see the reverse process with our own eyes.

Prispeval RaulPB, 05.04.2017 at 18:05

...Anyway, I'm quite skeptic about ever been able to know what really happened unless we get to see the reverse process with our own eyes.

Agreed, i am skeptical as well ♥

Prispeval brianwl, 05.04.2017 at 18:16

Agreed, i am skeptical as well ♥

May our skepticism unite us in life and even after death (the good death, not death1812) ♥

I like how evolutionists and atheists think they are superior and more knowledgable and percieve religious people as backwarded and barbarian. Maybe that's why Israel, America and Russia are in top science & technology rankings.

Let's see how many science and tech discoveries will new atheist and evolutionist generation have, i'm looking forward to




Long story:

40 years ago when discoveries hit the roof most scientists were normal, religious people brought in religious traditional families. They went to space, created nukes, military weaponry, modern infrastructure and everything, then atheism and (neo)evolutionist wave hit the planet and now people are becoming dumb and dumber. Let's check how many this new atheist and evolutionist people will have contribution to world science, after they graduated false knowledge and pseudoscience.

There are already visible results. Check how America can't create engine for space rockets but purchase from Russia. So how could they go to space 40 years ago and now they cant create an engine? Well because evolutionist wave is teaching pseudo-science and now new scientists cannot construct something simple as an engine, after ALREADY having formula for mixing metals for space rocket and its compartments, which is way harder to solve.

Prispeval Skanderbeg, 06.04.2017 at 10:54

I like how evolutionists and atheists think they are superior and more knowledgable and percieve religious people as backwarded and barbarian. Maybe that's why Israel, America and Russia are in top science & technology rankings.

Let's see how many science and tech discoveries will new atheist and evolutionist generation have, i'm looking forward to it

"I like how creationists and religious people think they are superior and more knowledgable and percieve atheist people as backwarded and barbarian."

Btw, stop inventing weird statements... as if all discoveries had been made by religious creationist people.... bla

Prispeval Skanderbeg, 06.04.2017 at 10:54

I like how evolutionists and atheists think they are superior and more knowledgable and percieve religious people as backwarded and barbarian. Maybe that's why Israel, America and Russia are in top science & technology rankings.

Let's see how many science and tech discoveries will new atheist and evolutionist generation have, i'm looking forward to




Long story:

40 years ago when discoveries hit the roof most scientists were normal, religious people brought in religious traditional families. They went to space, created nukes, military weaponry, modern infrastructure and everything, then atheism and (neo)evolutionist wave hit the planet and now people are becoming dumb and dumber. Let's check how many this new atheist and evolutionist people will have contribution to world science, after they graduated false knowledge and pseudoscience.

There are already visible results. Check how America can't create engine for space rockets but purchase from Russia. So how could they go to space 40 years ago and now they cant create an engine? Well because evolutionist wave is teaching pseudo-science and now new scientists cannot construct something simple as an engine, after ALREADY having formula for mixing metals for space rocket and its compartments, which is way harder to solve.

How is scientists being religious have anything to do with their discovery. They kept their faith separate from their work. No proper scientist would incorporate religion into their science as proof so your entire point is moot.

Get off your high horse. I doubt you even went to university and yet you
think you are smarter than people who did

Prispeval Witch-Doctor, 06.04.2017 at 11:18

How is scientists being religious have anything to do with their discovery. They kept their faith separate from their work. No proper scientist would incorporate religion into their science as proof so your entire point is moot.

Get off your high horse. I doubt you even went to university and yet you
think you are smarter than people who did

1. Because America was religious country (one nation under god and god bless america)

2. Because US scientists were from normal families who didnt question religion as it wasn't in conflict with science. I didn't say they used religion in workplace you retarded fuck. (don't think i won't insult you back lowlife)

3. Conflict was created by evolutionists when they started to twist science and created it into pseudoscience only to suit their agenda

4. Result of that(pseudo science) is that they can't create space engines anymore, 40 years after they already did it.

5. You can doubt that i attended university because i don't give a rat ass if you think i have a dick below armpit or it is sunny outside.

Prispeval Skanderbeg, 07.04.2017 at 10:48

Prispeval Witch-Doctor, 06.04.2017 at 11:18

How is scientists being religious have anything to do with their discovery. They kept their faith separate from their work. No proper scientist would incorporate religion into their science as proof so your entire point is moot.

Get off your high horse. I doubt you even went to university and yet you
think you are smarter than people who did

1. Because America was religious country (one nation under god and god bless america)

2. Because US scientists were from normal families who didnt question religion as it wasn't in conflict with science. I didn't say they used religion in workplace you retarded fuck. (don't think i won't insult you back lowlife)

3. Conflict was created by evolutionists when they started to twist science and created it into pseudoscience only to suit their agenda

4. Result of that(pseudo science) is that they can't create space engines anymore, 40 years after they already did it.

5. You can doubt that i attended university because i don't give a rat ass if you think i have a dick below armpit or it is sunny outside.

1. Wrong America was founded under the principles of separation between church and state. Learn American history.

2. Actually they did conflict quite a bit with religion, especially biologists. Scientists conflict ALL THE TIME over shit like Noah's Ark.

3. Name a pseudoscience and prove it's pseudoscience. If you can prove evolution is pseudoscience you will win a nobel prize, but you cant because you're an uneducated dumb fuck.

4. Our space engines are actually more powerful than the ones during the days of Apollo and infact, we are VERY capable of returning to the moon if we had the ambition to. There is literally nothing more to do on the moon. We already picked up rocks half a dozen times. Anything short of a moon base is not worth sending PEOPLE to.

5. I bet you work as a cement mixer since you don't have a degree. You're some blue collar retard who call people making more money than he is stupid. Get over yourself you minimum wage lowlife. You depend on religion because quite frankly, if I were you as an old man and I looked back on my life, I would be disappointed enough to kill myself. You want to believe in god because you want to believe there is an afterlife you can escape to after your shitty existence ends in half a century.

Prispeval Witch-Doctor, 07.04.2017 at 12:25

1. Wrong America was founded under the principles of separation between church and state. Learn American history.

2. Actually they did conflict quite a bit with religion, especially biologists. Scientists conflict ALL THE TIME over shit like Noah's Ark.

3. Name a pseudoscience and prove it's pseudoscience. If you can prove evolution is pseudoscience you will win a nobel prize, but you cant because you're an uneducated dumb fuck.

4. Our space engines are actually more powerful than the ones during the days of Apollo and infact, we are VERY capable of returning to the moon if we had the ambition to. There is literally nothing more to do on the moon. We already picked up rocks half a dozen times. Anything short of a moon base is not worth sending PEOPLE to.

5. I bet you work as a cement mixer since you don't have a degree. You're some blue collar retard who call people making more money than he is stupid. Get over yourself you minimum wage lowlife. You depend on religion because quite frankly, if I were you as an old man and I looked back on my life, I would be disappointed enough to kill myself. You want to believe in god because you want to believe there is an afterlife you can escape to after your shitty existence ends in half a century.

1. >separation>god mentioned in the oath

2. Nobel prizes are bullshit since they are taken over by retarded atheists (giving Obama nobel prize for peace after invading 7 countries in 8 years), we've already talked about it in previous 1503 topics like this, go check it, i'm not repeating myself because of some new newbie noob who just disovered the game.

3. >talks about moon>no one said anything about the moon>he think he smart>still didnt answer why US can't leave earth without tagging along Russian spacecraft or buying Russian R-180 engines. Not to mention failed F-35 which overspend like spacecraft and still not working. And that's happening 40 years after American scientists created tech like U-2, Nike, Abrams, Nimitz, Apollo, Shuttle. So bitch please, don't embarass yourself anymore.

4. No i'm not a cement mixer, that's reserved for Ukrainian immigrants, i ain't taking their job, i'm a good guy. I am a farmer, i clean pig shit everyday, to fertilize my cropfields where i work WHEN i want, plant WHAT i want, wake up WHEN i want, working as long i want. I'm complete free unlike you enslaved retard who have to wake up in 6am to drive 1h to workplace where you earn 25% of the labor value sitting 8h a day getting hemoroids and spending astronomical numbers on meds because you don't have a healthcare insurance provided by the state because that's socialist and Norway is not good example but you think you have freedom although others measure your fuel cost, food cost, housing cost and tax cost - by the same state that doesn't provide you healthcare, or proper education for the matter.

Your destructive way of life is inevitably leading to death, one way or another, if not suicide from pressure, then crime on the streets, war, or health failure. You stop breeding, you have no younglings to replace you, now immigrants are taking over. You're done. You're history. New generations will read about you as something ancient, that happened long ago and will never return. You will be replaced by Muslims and other conservatives who have +10 offsprings and disciplined societies. They are backward but it will be your fault for them succeding in your territory, because you retard failed to learn, understand and live normally.

So you don't talk me about something you discovered yesterday you little rat, you are way too young and rookie to understand things, it's embarassing, and very cringy.

Enjoy your decay and demise.

Separation of church in state? I used to think that... then someone pointed out that all churches in NA except for a few are registered with the government. Separation of church and state is such an obvious deception. It's ok though... it takes time to see the truth - something so blatantly obvious untrue is still defended because we want it to be true. We just unquestioningly believe ♥

Prispeval Skanderbeg, 08.04.2017 at 07:56

Prispeval Witch-Doctor, 07.04.2017 at 12:25

1. Wrong America was founded under the principles of separation between church and state. Learn American history.

2. Actually they did conflict quite a bit with religion, especially biologists. Scientists conflict ALL THE TIME over shit like Noah's Ark.

3. Name a pseudoscience and prove it's pseudoscience. If you can prove evolution is pseudoscience you will win a nobel prize, but you cant because you're an uneducated dumb fuck.

4. Our space engines are actually more powerful than the ones during the days of Apollo and infact, we are VERY capable of returning to the moon if we had the ambition to. There is literally nothing more to do on the moon. We already picked up rocks half a dozen times. Anything short of a moon base is not worth sending PEOPLE to.

5. I bet you work as a cement mixer since you don't have a degree. You're some blue collar retard who call people making more money than he is stupid. Get over yourself you minimum wage lowlife. You depend on religion because quite frankly, if I were you as an old man and I looked back on my life, I would be disappointed enough to kill myself. You want to believe in god because you want to believe there is an afterlife you can escape to after your shitty existence ends in half a century.

1. >separation>god mentioned in the oath

2. Nobel prizes are bullshit since they are taken over by retarded atheists (giving Obama nobel prize for peace after invading 7 countries in 8 years), we've already talked about it in previous 1503 topics like this, go check it, i'm not repeating myself because of some new newbie noob who just disovered the game.

3. >talks about moon>no one said anything about the moon>he think he smart>still didnt answer why US can't leave earth without tagging along Russian spacecraft or buying Russian R-180 engines. Not to mention failed F-35 which overspend like spacecraft and still not working. And that's happening 40 years after American scientists created tech like U-2, Nike, Abrams, Nimitz, Apollo, Shuttle. So bitch please, don't embarass yourself anymore.

4. No i'm not a cement mixer, that's reserved for Ukrainian immigrants, i ain't taking their job, i'm a good guy. I am a farmer, i clean pig shit everyday, to fertilize my cropfields where i work WHEN i want, plant WHAT i want, wake up WHEN i want, working as long i want. I'm complete free unlike you enslaved retard who have to wake up in 6am to drive 1h to workplace where you earn 25% of the labor value sitting 8h a day getting hemoroids and spending astronomical numbers on meds because you don't have a healthcare insurance provided by the state because that's socialist and Norway is not good example but you think you have freedom although others measure your fuel cost, food cost, housing cost and tax cost - by the same state that doesn't provide you healthcare, or proper education for the matter.

Your destructive way of life is inevitably leading to death, one way or another, if not suicide from pressure, then crime on the streets, war, or health failure. You stop breeding, you have no younglings to replace you, now immigrants are taking over. You're done. You're history. New generations will read about you as something ancient, that happened long ago and will never return. You will be replaced by Muslims and other conservatives who have +10 offsprings and disciplined societies. They are backward but it will be your fault for them succeding in your territory, because you retard failed to learn, understand and live normally.

So you don't talk me about something you discovered yesterday you little rat, you are way too young and rookie to understand things, it's embarassing, and very cringy.

Enjoy your decay and demise.

3. Listen you dumb fuck, there is declining reasons to go to space. Ambitions have died and economies have worsen. We have the tech, but nobody wants to go to space again unless there is a good reason. You wonder why we stop sending people to the moon and instead sent more drones? Do me a favor and actually read what I said.

4. I earn way more than labor values. I wake up at 8 am but okay. My commute is only 30 minutes. You'll be surprised to learn 95% of all my medical related expenses are covered by something called insurance. I can go have a $1000 surgery and still only pay $50. Lets see no hemorrhoid because I don't sit in a chair I move around.
Now lets see, gas
https://www.expatistan.com/price/gas/moscow/USD
$0.69 per liter in moscow so $2.76 for 4 liter or more specifically a gallon. My gas here costs $2.20 a gallon, but okay.
Food cost: Negligible, fast food is cheap as fuck, and it's even cheaper if I make food at home.
Housing cost: Own my house, only thing I pay is utilities and property tax.
Tax- Sure you pay less taxes, but your country is also shittier. I pay $18,000 plus 28% of the amount of my income and I like my standard of living here.
America was founded on the principles of immigration - we'll gladly take people leaving Russia to come here because your country oppresses them.


I'm not even gonna pretend that my country doesn't suck ass in ways unlike you tito.

Prispeval brianwl, 08.04.2017 at 12:06

Separation of church in state? I used to think that... then someone pointed out that all churches in NA except for a few are registered with the government. Separation of church and state is such an obvious deception. It's ok though... it takes time to see the truth - something so blatantly obvious untrue is still defended because we want it to be true. We just unquestioningly believe ♥

I was once asked a question about this topic: if church were separate from the state, why would we consider normal that religion was taught in schools, churches not having to pay taxes or feeling threatened when seeing hijabs but not when we see nuns and their outfits.

I've also given up to this sad truth, politicians don't want to separate church from the state for some reason.

Prispeval Skanderbeg, 08.04.2017 at 07:56

Prispeval Witch-Doctor, 07.04.2017 at 12:25

1. Wrong America was founded under the principles of separation between church and state. Learn American history.

2. Actually they did conflict quite a bit with religion, especially biologists. Scientists conflict ALL THE TIME over shit like Noah's Ark.

3. Name a pseudoscience and prove it's pseudoscience. If you can prove evolution is pseudoscience you will win a nobel prize, but you cant because you're an uneducated dumb fuck.

4. Our space engines are actually more powerful than the ones during the days of Apollo and infact, we are VERY capable of returning to the moon if we had the ambition to. There is literally nothing more to do on the moon. We already picked up rocks half a dozen times. Anything short of a moon base is not worth sending PEOPLE to.

5. I bet you work as a cement mixer since you don't have a degree. You're some blue collar retard who call people making more money than he is stupid. Get over yourself you minimum wage lowlife. You depend on religion because quite frankly, if I were you as an old man and I looked back on my life, I would be disappointed enough to kill myself. You want to believe in god because you want to believe there is an afterlife you can escape to after your shitty existence ends in half a century.

1. >separation>god mentioned in the oath

2. Nobel prizes are bullshit since they are taken over by retarded atheists (giving Obama nobel prize for peace after invading 7 countries in 8 years), we've already talked about it in previous 1503 topics like this, go check it, i'm not repeating myself because of some new newbie noob who just disovered the game.

3. >talks about moon>no one said anything about the moon>he think he smart>still didnt answer why US can't leave earth without tagging along Russian spacecraft or buying Russian R-180 engines. Not to mention failed F-35 which overspend like spacecraft and still not working. And that's happening 40 years after American scientists created tech like U-2, Nike, Abrams, Nimitz, Apollo, Shuttle. So bitch please, don't embarass yourself anymore.

4. No i'm not a cement mixer, that's reserved for Ukrainian immigrants, i ain't taking their job, i'm a good guy. I am a farmer, i clean pig shit everyday, to fertilize my cropfields where i work WHEN i want, plant WHAT i want, wake up WHEN i want, working as long i want. I'm complete free unlike you enslaved retard who have to wake up in 6am to drive 1h to workplace where you earn 25% of the labor value sitting 8h a day getting hemoroids and spending astronomical numbers on meds because you don't have a healthcare insurance provided by the state because that's socialist and Norway is not good example but you think you have freedom although others measure your fuel cost, food cost, housing cost and tax cost - by the same state that doesn't provide you healthcare, or proper education for the matter.

Your destructive way of life is inevitably leading to death, one way or another, if not suicide from pressure, then crime on the streets, war, or health failure. You stop breeding, you have no younglings to replace you, now immigrants are taking over. You're done. You're history. New generations will read about you as something ancient, that happened long ago and will never return. You will be replaced by Muslims and other conservatives who have +10 offsprings and disciplined societies. They are backward but it will be your fault for them succeding in your territory, because you retard failed to learn, understand and live normally.

So you don't talk me about something you discovered yesterday you little rat, you are way too young and rookie to understand things, it's embarassing, and very cringy.

Enjoy your decay and demise.

Actually the presidential oath and national anthem where revised in the 20th century, in order to unify the Christian people of the country to battle nationalistic sentiments in europe, which with there unified populations where out producing us.

Prispeval RaulPB, 08.04.2017 at 12:42

feeling threatened when seeing hijabs but not when we see nuns and their outfits.

Nobody is threatened by nuns as their face is revealed and their background is seen as good, hijab to most people represents the bad side of islam, thus people dont want it near them. "Where there are muslims, bad things follow." - old saying from our region

Prispeval Evic, 08.04.2017 at 18:00

Nobody is threatened by nuns as their face is revealed and their background is seen as good, hijab to most people represents the bad side of islam, thus people dont want it near them. "Where there are muslims, bad things follow." - old saying from our region

Hijab doesn't hide their face either but we want to ban it, yet not the nuns' outfit since it's a christian sign. At the same time, we somehow try to defend it is as a non-religious based decision. Anyway, yeah, as you say, fear is really strong... and we certainly relate hijabs to islam terrorism.

Prispeval RaulPB, 09.04.2017 at 15:36

Hijab doesn't hide their face either but we want to ban it, yet not the nuns' outfit since it's a christian sign. At the same time, we somehow try to defend it is as a non-religious based decision. Anyway, yeah, as you say, fear is really strong... and we certainly relate hijabs to islam terrorism.

You seem to think the only problem we have with islam is the terrorism part, that is just the tip of the iceberg, islam has created its own culture where it was present, and that culture isnt compatible with the western culture.
The reason we dont see nuns as threatening is because the culture behind them covering their body isnt dangerous for our way of life, nobody forced them to dress that way.
In islam however, 99% of women are forced to wear the hijab or are indoctrinated through their education that that is something they must do or else....
We dont want such a totalitarian ideology in the west, there is no place for it here and hence, the hijabs are seen as a negative thing.

Prispeval Evic, 09.04.2017 at 15:50

nuns ... nobody forced them to dress that way.

Oh, haven't them? XD you think they'd accept them dressed in miniskirt maybe?

The only difference I see is that in western countries, people is not forced to become religious.

Prispeval RaulPB, 09.04.2017 at 15:53

Prispeval Evic, 09.04.2017 at 15:50

nuns ... nobody forced them to dress that way.

Oh, haven't they? XD you think they'd accept them dressed in miniskirt maybe?

Nobody forced them to become nuns they knew the rules before joining and joined anyway, plz dont be so ignorant.

Prispeval Evic, 09.04.2017 at 15:54

Nobody forced them to become nuns they knew the rules before joining and joined anyway, plz dont be so ignorant.

Yet we respect this rule and not islam's rule. Yeah, I know, they are kinda forced to become religious by their families etc, yet we respect the one over the other one. Btw, I edited last post a bit late I guess hehe

Prispeval RaulPB, 08.04.2017 at 12:42

or feeling threatened when seeing hijabs but not when we see nuns and their outfits.

Getting tired of your ignorant fucking stupid social justice warrior trash propaganda. Nuns are wearing what they are wearing by CHOICE, hijabs and burqas in most muslim countries are forced upon them. We are tired of your hypocrisy and sexism, you are insulting millions of women who get beaten, raped and oppressed every day by Islam, with your apologist bullcrap.