Well this doesn't received a shock it deserved, 50 years ago this would echo for years, everyone would talk about it for weeks(country renamed). But what happens now to ethnic group living there? Do they stay Macedonians, or are they now North Macedonians, like the name of their country? Like North Koreans.
Good news is since my father is Greek from Macedonia (greek region), i can now say i'm Macedonian, without being connected to North Macedonia! 2020 Census here i come!
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If a game is around long enough, people will find the most efficient way to play it and start playing it like robots
I can not understand why the people who live there should be called Macedonians. Since when there are ethnic minorities, 64% of Slavs, 25.2% of Albanians, 3.9% of Turks, 2.7% of gypsies, 1 , 8% serbians, 0.8% are Bosnians, 0.5% are Vlachs and the other 20.993 do not belong to any of the previous categories. But this is not the most important reason, the fact is that historically and genetically the name Macedonia and the people who lived there in the ancient times, was Greeks, that is, even before the Slavs came to the area in the period 604 after Christ in the region. Now that we are referring to ancient times based on historical events, we will see that Macedonia is mentioned by historians as part of Hellenism, as we know Greece in ancient times was divided into city states such as Athens, Sparta, Corinth, Thiva, Crete, and Macedonia and many other regions. All of them spoken Greeks, they were the same race, they all knew they were Greeks and every region had its own laws.King Philip, father of Alexander the Great in 338 BC succeeded in uniting all the Greeks, and began their campaign to the Persian empire as vengeance for the evil that the Persians had done to the Greeks.Τhe campaign to Persia was organized by his son Alexander as the Greek king, who leads the Greek army.This era was called the Hellenistic period.
Τhose about historical content,now the people who live in the so-called northern Macedonia, is by no way connected with the Greeks and the Greek history,because they are mainly Slavs and the most basic is that they do not speak the Greek language.The people there speaks bulgarians and not Macedonians(Greeks).Τhere is no Macedonian language,that's ridiculous to say it.
I want to refer to the inhabitants of northern Macedonia, you can be proud Slavs, but you can not call yourself Macedonians since when you are not Greeks and you do not speak the Greek language.WITH MY ALL RESPECT FOR ALL OF YOU.
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"People can be as dark as they want to be, but it's enough to intervene in a part of Greek life, so that it is immediately illuminated."
Friedrich N
I can not understand why the people who live there should be called Macedonians. Since when there are ethnic minorities, 64% of Slavs, 25.2% of Albanians, 3.9% of Turks, 2.7% of gypsies, 1 , 8% serbians, 0.8% are Bosnians, 0.5% are Vlachs and the other 20.993 do not belong to any of the previous categories. But this is not the most important reason, the fact is that historically and genetically the name Macedonia and the people who lived there in the ancient times, was Greeks, that is, even before the Slavs came to the area in the period 604 after Christ in the region. Now that we are referring to ancient times based on historical events, we will see that Macedonia is mentioned by historians as part of Hellenism, as we know Greece in ancient times was divided into city states such as Athens, Sparta, Corinth, Thiva, Crete, and Macedonia and many other regions. All of them spoken Greeks, they were the same race, they all knew they were Greeks and every region had its own laws.King Philip, father of Alexander the Great in 338 BC succeeded in uniting all the Greeks, and began their campaign to the Persian empire as vengeance for the evil that the Persians had done to the Greeks.Τhe campaign to Persia was organized by his son Alexander as the Greek king, who leads the Greek army.This era was called the Hellenistic period.
Τhose about historical content,now the people who live in the so-called northern Macedonia, is by no way connected with the Greeks and the Greek history,because they are mainly Slavs and the most basic is that they do not speak the Greek language.The people there speaks bulgarians and not Macedonians(Greeks).Τhere is no Macedonian language,that's ridiculous to say it.
I want to refer to the inhabitants of northern Macedonia, you can be proud Slavs, but you can not call yourself Macedonians since when you are not Greeks and you do not speak the Greek language.WITH MY ALL RESPECT FOR ALL OF YOU.
It all happened because of Turkish Empire, occupied Balkan people didn't had a chance to go through Enlightened Age and Nationalism like all other European nations, they were frozen in time. But when Serbia got freedom (after 1804), it was too weak to liberate South Serbia (Skopje, Bitola etc, lands that were last owned by Serbia before Turkey arrived), so that region remained in the Turkish Empire for another 100 years (until 1912). For those 100 years, Serbians developed modern identity, since the country was connected to Europe finally, and the discrepancy between Serbia and South Serbia became huge beyond repair.
They looked like different people, not similar to Serbians (or Bulgarians, despite their language now looks closer to Bulgarian because Serbia went through reform mid-19 century, like Romania). So after WW2, the communists exploited this to create new republic.
When communism collapsed 50 years later, the republic became independent, and the rest you know.
But still, going through name change in 21st century, is massive. It's literally an end of an era (for them). This opens new questions; like are they North(ern) Macedonians now? Will scholars and historians stop researching connection between North Macedonia and Alexander the Great? Is the historical dispute atleast settled?
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If a game is around long enough, people will find the most efficient way to play it and start playing it like robots
I can not understand why the people who live there should be called Macedonians. Since when there are ethnic minorities, 64% of Slavs, 25.2% of Albanians, 3.9% of Turks, 2.7% of gypsies, 1 , 8% serbians, 0.8% are Bosnians, 0.5% are Vlachs and the other 20.993 do not belong to any of the previous categories. But this is not the most important reason, the fact is that historically and genetically the name Macedonia and the people who lived there in the ancient times, was Greeks, that is, even before the Slavs came to the area in the period 604 after Christ in the region. Now that we are referring to ancient times based on historical events, we will see that Macedonia is mentioned by historians as part of Hellenism, as we know Greece in ancient times was divided into city states such as Athens, Sparta, Corinth, Thiva, Crete, and Macedonia and many other regions. All of them spoken Greeks, they were the same race, they all knew they were Greeks and every region had its own laws.King Philip, father of Alexander the Great in 338 BC succeeded in uniting all the Greeks, and began their campaign to the Persian empire as vengeance for the evil that the Persians had done to the Greeks.Τhe campaign to Persia was organized by his son Alexander as the Greek king, who leads the Greek army.This era was called the Hellenistic period.
Τhose about historical content,now the people who live in the so-called northern Macedonia, is by no way connected with the Greeks and the Greek history,because they are mainly Slavs and the most basic is that they do not speak the Greek language.The people there speaks bulgarians and not Macedonians(Greeks).Τhere is no Macedonian language,that's ridiculous to say it.
I want to refer to the inhabitants of northern Macedonia, you can be proud Slavs, but you can not call yourself Macedonians since when you are not Greeks and you do not speak the Greek language.WITH MY ALL RESPECT FOR ALL OF YOU.
It all happened because of Turkish Empire, occupied Balkan people didn't had a chance to go through Enlightened Age and Nationalism like all other European nations, they were frozen in time. But when Serbia got freedom (after 1804), it was too weak to liberate South Serbia (Skopje, Bitola etc, lands that were last owned by Serbia before Turkey arrived), so that region remained in the Turkish Empire for another 100 years (until 1912). For those 100 years, Serbians developed modern identity, since the country was connected to Europe finally, and the discrepancy between Serbia and South Serbia became huge beyond repair.
They looked like different people, not similar to Serbians (or Bulgarians, despite their language now looks closer to Bulgarian because Serbia went through reform mid-19 century, like Romania). So after WW2, the communists exploited this to create new republic.
When communism collapsed 50 years later, the republic became independent, and the rest you know.
But still, going through name change in 21st century, is massive. It's literally an end of an era (for them). This opens new questions; like are they North(ern) Macedonians now? Will scholars and historians stop researching connection between North Macedonia and Alexander the Great? Is the historical dispute atleast settled?
Historically, they can not in any way say that they are connected with the history of Macedonia, because the name of the region and the location are literally in Greece. My personal opinion is that Greece made a big mistake in the Prespa convention, which recognized Macedonian language, took on this job corrupt politicians and without the necessary knowledge on the subject. All this happened because there are great geopolitical and economic interests of the great bosses like the United States of America and Europe. The great evil is that they have tricked this people by making them believe that it was an ancient state,with history and nationality stolen from Greece. And I do not blame the people who live there, they tricked them with a very clever way, resulting in their fanaticism.
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"People can be as dark as they want to be, but it's enough to intervene in a part of Greek life, so that it is immediately illuminated."
Friedrich N
Well this doesn't received a shock it deserved, 50 years ago this would echo for years, everyone would talk about it for weeks(country renamed). But what happens now to ethnic group living there? Do they stay Macedonians, or are they now North Macedonians, like the name of their country? Like North Koreans.
Good news is since my father is Greek from Macedonia (greek region), i can now say i'm Macedonian, without being connected to North Macedonia! 2020 Census here i come!
You will be always greek limonada pederakis xD
No macedonian nationality in gaylada aka hellass.
Slavs rules in Greece .
In Republic of Best Macedonia
Nationality Macedonian
Language Macedonian
North is bc eu nato
But if we dont join this gay organisations
We going to back old name
I can not understand why the people who live there should be called Macedonians. Since when there are ethnic minorities, 64% of Slavs, 25.2% of Albanians, 3.9% of Turks, 2.7% of gypsies, 1 , 8% serbians, 0.8% are Bosnians, 0.5% are Vlachs and the other 20.993 do not belong to any of the previous categories. But this is not the most important reason, the fact is that historically and genetically the name Macedonia and the people who lived there in the ancient times, was Greeks, that is, even before the Slavs came to the area in the period 604 after Christ in the region. Now that we are referring to ancient times based on historical events, we will see that Macedonia is mentioned by historians as part of Hellenism, as we know Greece in ancient times was divided into city states such as Athens, Sparta, Corinth, Thiva, Crete, and Macedonia and many other regions. All of them spoken Greeks, they were the same race, they all knew they were Greeks and every region had its own laws.King Philip, father of Alexander the Great in 338 BC succeeded in uniting all the Greeks, and began their campaign to the Persian empire as vengeance for the evil that the Persians had done to the Greeks.Τhe campaign to Persia was organized by his son Alexander as the Greek king, who leads the Greek army.This era was called the Hellenistic period.
Τhose about historical content,now the people who live in the so-called northern Macedonia, is by no way connected with the Greeks and the Greek history,because they are mainly Slavs and the most basic is that they do not speak the Greek language.The people there speaks bulgarians and not Macedonians(Greeks).Τhere is no Macedonian language,that's ridiculous to say it.
I want to refer to the inhabitants of northern Macedonia, you can be proud Slavs, but you can not call yourself Macedonians since when you are not Greeks and you do not speak the Greek language.WITH MY ALL RESPECT FOR ALL OF YOU.
Xaxaxax what a lazy guy
You just copy paste this from greek forums
As i understood, Greeks do not hide Northern Greece is populated by Greeks from Anatolia in 1922, after population exchange with Turkey. When i lived there, many said their ancestors are from Anatolia and Pontus, some even from Caucasus (Greek settlers in Russia). What's wrong with that? Greece indeed had colonies in Anatolia, Pontus and Azov coast, so after 2000 years there are still Greeks living there.
Gypsies are indeed hated group in Eastern Europe, but they are not connected to Greece. Even if Greeks are gypsies, that doesn't change anything, Religion is important, not nationality. Greece is also developed enough while gypsy term is used for poor people (by nationalists), so it is invalid to use it for Greece.
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If a game is around long enough, people will find the most efficient way to play it and start playing it like robots
Well this doesn't received a shock it deserved, 50 years ago this would echo for years, everyone would talk about it for weeks(country renamed). But what happens now to ethnic group living there? Do they stay Macedonians, or are they now North Macedonians, like the name of their country? Like North Koreans.
Good news is since my father is Greek from Macedonia (greek region), i can now say i'm Macedonian, without being connected to North Macedonia! 2020 Census here i come!
You will be always greek limonada pederakis xD
No macedonian nationality in gaylada aka hellass.
Slavs rules in Greece .
In Republic of Best Macedonia
Nationality Macedonian
Language Macedonian
North is bc eu nato
But if we dont join this gay organisations
We going to back old name
andartes brain rotten and confused, he doesent realize only the sun is older then MACEDONIA.
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''Everywhere where i am absent, they commit nothing but follies''
~Napoleon
As i understood, Greeks do not hide Northern Greece is populated by Greeks from Anatolia in 1922, after population exchange with Turkey. When i lived there, many said their ancestors are from Anatolia and Pontus, some even from Caucasus (Greek settlers in Russia). What's wrong with that? Greece indeed had colonies in Anatolia, Pontus and Azov coast, so after 2000 years there are still Greeks living there.
Gypsies are indeed hated group in Eastern Europe, but they are not connected to Greece. Even if Greeks are gypsies, that doesn't change anything, Religion is important, not nationality. Greece is also developed enough while gypsy term is used for poor people (by nationalists), so it is invalid to use it for Greece.
You dont have nothing with Ancient Macedonia
Or ancient people from that regions xD
Well this doesn't received a shock it deserved, 50 years ago this would echo for years, everyone would talk about it for weeks(country renamed). But what happens now to ethnic group living there? Do they stay Macedonians, or are they now North Macedonians, like the name of their country? Like North Koreans.
Good news is since my father is Greek from Macedonia (greek region), i can now say i'm Macedonian, without being connected to North Macedonia! 2020 Census here i come!
You will be always greek limonada pederakis xD
No macedonian nationality in gaylada aka hellass.
Slavs rules in Greece .
In Republic of Best Macedonia
Nationality Macedonian
Language Macedonian
North is bc eu nato
But if we dont join this gay organisations
We going to back old name
Don't expect anyone to take you seriously when you write things such as "gaylada" and "hellass". It proves how biased and uneducated you are.
And it's honestly just sad that you claim the "real" macedonians are slavs.
Well this doesn't received a shock it deserved, 50 years ago this would echo for years, everyone would talk about it for weeks(country renamed). But what happens now to ethnic group living there? Do they stay Macedonians, or are they now North Macedonians, like the name of their country? Like North Koreans.
Good news is since my father is Greek from Macedonia (greek region), i can now say i'm Macedonian, without being connected to North Macedonia! 2020 Census here i come!
You will be always greek limonada pederakis xD
No macedonian nationality in gaylada aka hellass.
Slavs rules in Greece .
In Republic of Best Macedonia
Nationality Macedonian
Language Macedonian
North is bc eu nato
But if we dont join this gay organisations
We going to back old name
Don't expect anyone to take you seriously when you write things such as "gaylada" and "hellass". It proves how biased and uneducated you are.
And it's honestly just sad that you claim the "real" macedonians are slavs.
Well this doesn't received a shock it deserved, 50 years ago this would echo for years, everyone would talk about it for weeks(country renamed). But what happens now to ethnic group living there? Do they stay Macedonians, or are they now North Macedonians, like the name of their country? Like North Koreans.
Good news is since my father is Greek from Macedonia (greek region), i can now say i'm Macedonian, without being connected to North Macedonia! 2020 Census here i come!
You will be always greek limonada pederakis xD
No macedonian nationality in gaylada aka hellass.
Slavs rules in Greece .
In Republic of Best Macedonia
Nationality Macedonian
Language Macedonian
North is bc eu nato
But if we dont join this gay organisations
We going to back old name
Don't expect anyone to take you seriously when you write things such as "gaylada" and "hellass". It proves how biased and uneducated you are.
And it's honestly just sad that you claim the "real" macedonians are slavs.
If you travel in greece, you will see this xD
What is there to see?
A sign that says Hellas and not an insulting version that says "hellass" ?
Also, stop posting these shitty memes as a cover up for the fact that you dont know jack shit.
Well this doesn't received a shock it deserved, 50 years ago this would echo for years, everyone would talk about it for weeks(country renamed). But what happens now to ethnic group living there? Do they stay Macedonians, or are they now North Macedonians, like the name of their country? Like North Koreans.
Good news is since my father is Greek from Macedonia (greek region), i can now say i'm Macedonian, without being connected to North Macedonia! 2020 Census here i come!
You will be always greek limonada pederakis xD
No macedonian nationality in gaylada aka hellass.
Slavs rules in Greece .
In Republic of Best Macedonia
Nationality Macedonian
Language Macedonian
North is bc eu nato
But if we dont join this gay organisations
We going to back old name
Don't expect anyone to take you seriously when you write things such as "gaylada" and "hellass". It proves how biased and uneducated you are.
And it's honestly just sad that you claim the "real" macedonians are slavs.
If you travel in greece, you will see this xD
What is there to see?
A sign that says Hellas and not an insulting version that says "hellass" ?
Also, stop posting these shitty memes as a cover up for the fact that you dont know jack shit.
You are annoying fag who dont know nothing about balkan history xD
I can not understand why the people who live there should be called Macedonians. Since when there are ethnic minorities, 64% of Slavs, 25.2% of Albanians, 3.9% of Turks, 2.7% of gypsies, 1 , 8% serbians, 0.8% are Bosnians, 0.5% are Vlachs and the other 20.993 do not belong to any of the previous categories. But this is not the most important reason, the fact is that historically and genetically the name Macedonia and the people who lived there in the ancient times, was Greeks, that is, even before the Slavs came to the area in the period 604 after Christ in the region. Now that we are referring to ancient times based on historical events, we will see that Macedonia is mentioned by historians as part of Hellenism, as we know Greece in ancient times was divided into city states such as Athens, Sparta, Corinth, Thiva, Crete, and Macedonia and many other regions. All of them spoken Greeks, they were the same race, they all knew they were Greeks and every region had its own laws.King Philip, father of Alexander the Great in 338 BC succeeded in uniting all the Greeks, and began their campaign to the Persian empire as vengeance for the evil that the Persians had done to the Greeks.Τhe campaign to Persia was organized by his son Alexander as the Greek king, who leads the Greek army.This era was called the Hellenistic period.
Τhose about historical content,now the people who live in the so-called northern Macedonia, is by no way connected with the Greeks and the Greek history,because they are mainly Slavs and the most basic is that they do not speak the Greek language.The people there speaks bulgarians and not Macedonians(Greeks).Τhere is no Macedonian language,that's ridiculous to say it.
I want to refer to the inhabitants of northern Macedonia, you can be proud Slavs, but you can not call yourself Macedonians since when you are not Greeks and you do not speak the Greek language.WITH MY ALL RESPECT FOR ALL OF YOU.
Xaxaxax what a lazy guy
You just copy paste this from greek forums
That irony when gypsies from Asia call themself Macedonians .
You can be proud gypsy but never Macedonian.
real macedonians are slavs xD
1.You are totally socially uneducated, because you can not articulate a reason properly.
2. Ιf Macedonia as you say is Slavic, tell me what the term Macedonia,or Alexander,or Phillip means in Slavic language, and what its meaning, because in Greeks there is an explanation.
3.You call yourself a Macedonian but you are like a barbarian, these are two sides that are not connected to each other.
4.You are totally fool if you think that the ancient Macedonians were Slavs, it is at least funny to say it. Because the history of Macedonia belongs exclusively to Greece.
5. I can show you many elements that prove that you are not connected with ancient Macedonian history.
Slavs recognize that Macedonia is Greek.
Former Skopje Prime Minister Ljubco Georgievski talks about Greek Alexander the Great.
Macedonian Treasures at the Ashmolean Museum, Oxford
if you think I am a gypsy, we are too close to come and meet me to see who looks more like a gypsy.
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"People can be as dark as they want to be, but it's enough to intervene in a part of Greek life, so that it is immediately illuminated."
Friedrich N
Well this doesn't received a shock it deserved, 50 years ago this would echo for years, everyone would talk about it for weeks(country renamed). But what happens now to ethnic group living there? Do they stay Macedonians, or are they now North Macedonians, like the name of their country? Like North Koreans.
Good news is since my father is Greek from Macedonia (greek region), i can now say i'm Macedonian, without being connected to North Macedonia! 2020 Census here i come!
You will be always greek limonada pederakis xD
No macedonian nationality in gaylada aka hellass.
Slavs rules in Greece .
In Republic of Best Macedonia
Nationality Macedonian
Language Macedonian
North is bc eu nato
But if we dont join this gay organisations
We going to back old name
Don't expect anyone to take you seriously when you write things such as "gaylada" and "hellass". It proves how biased and uneducated you are.
And it's honestly just sad that you claim the "real" macedonians are slavs.
If you travel in greece, you will see this xD
What is there to see?
A sign that says Hellas and not an insulting version that says "hellass" ?
Also, stop posting these shitty memes as a cover up for the fact that you dont know jack shit.
You are annoying fag who dont know nothing about balkan history xD
Did you actually say I dont know nothing about balkan history when you claim slavs are the real macedonians? Is that a joke?
Open any history book and it will state that slavic migration to the Balkan peninsula started in the 6th and 7th century.
You should know when the Macedonians conquered the Middle East, it started the process of Hellenization of the east, not slavicization.
Also try using this if you want someone to take you seriously.
